The Ruse and Fail of Little Green Footballs: Part II – The Ascendance

This is Part 2 of a monograph about a blog named Little Green Footballs and its founder Charles Foster Johnson. Click the links below for related posts. They will be updated as the series continues.
Part 1 – Overview
Part 2 – The Ascendance of Charles Johnson and LGF
Part 3 – The Bannings
Part 4 – The Flounces
Part 5 – The Turnaround
Part 6 – Current Events & The Future Of LGF

Bonus track: Revisiting Rathergate


Thread Topics, National Recognition and Commenting

It cannot be disputed that Charles Johnson was once noted for exposing radical Islam in stories that were not broadcast or found on what is termed the “mainstream media.” Johnson found interesting and newsworthy stories that went under-reported or ignored by the MSM and opened them up for discussion. He was celebrated for exposing rampant anti-Semitism found on Arabic television, especially in children’s programming. He documented efforts by the United States and others to eradicate terrorism, both politically and militarily, often sporting headlines such as “Got Two in Gaza!” or “Got Four in Lebanon!” referring to the number of enemy combatants killed.

More to the point, Little Green Footballs was interesting to read simply as an observer. His blog members at the time included well-educated, well-read individuals from all walks of life – physicians, attorneys, editors, engineers, meteorologists, teachers and other professionals, with first hand knowledge of the various topics presented for discussion. Review the comments section of any thread prior to 2009 dealing with world and domestic affairs and you will find a treasure trove of links, research, first-hand experience and commentary that rivaled anything offered by the alphabet networks and cable news.

Johnson was propelled to national attention and prominence as a central figure in the scandal known as “Rathergate,” the fraud promoted by Dan Rather and CBS. Rather and CBS proffered forged Texas Air National Guard memoranda[1] less than two months prior to the 2004 Presidential Election, in an effort to discredit President George W. Bush.

Johnson created a stunning visual aid (a simple.gif animation, referred to as “the throbbing memo”) that effectively illustrated the obvious forgery. Using the default settings in Microsoft Word, he created a perfect reproduction of CBS’s memos, right down to the word processing font and proportional spacing. However, the verification of the forgery had been posted 12 hours earlier at conservative on-line forum Free Republic, when “Buckhead” posted what has come to be called “the shot heard round the internet:

[8:59PM 8 September 2004]

Howlin, every single one of these memos to file is in a proportionally spaced font, probably Palatino or Times New Roman.

In 1972 people used typewriters for this sort of thing, and typewriters used monospaced fonts.

The use of proportionally spaced fonts did not come into common use for office memos until the introduction of laser printers, word processing software, and personal computers. They were not widespread until the mid to late 90’s. Before then, you needed typesetting equipment, and that wasn’t used for personal memos to file. Even the Wang systems that were dominant in the mid 80’s used monospaced fonts.

I am saying these documents are forgeries, run through a copier for 15 generations to make them look old.

This should be pursued aggressively.[2]

Picked up by Powerline and others, it was Johnson’s posters that brought the story to Johnson – he didn’t go out and find it himself – yet he took the credit, and basked in the glory. Johnson created an effective illustration of the counterfeit memo – the smoking gun – and promoted it. Nothing more.[3]

[A more recent study revealed that even Johnson’s “throbbing memo” was coopted from another blogger, Jeremy Chrysler, who posted it on his blog Pacetown[4]. Johnson saw the .gif animation and merely duplicated it, even using the exact same page of the Killian forgery. Besides size and speed, the only significant difference between the two animations is a superscript, yet Johnson claimed the work as his own.[5] –Ed]

To his credit, Johnson didn’t stop there. He went on to expose Reuters photographer Adnan Hajj for faking photographs of supposed IDF attacks on Beirut, garnering further international attention. Johnson made “Islamic Rage Boy”[6] and “Green Helmet Man”[7] laughing stock for those who mocked the Islamic propaganda of outlets like Al-Jazeera and the ineptitude/bias of the western Main Stream Media. (Think about it – when was the last time you saw Islamic Rage Boy or Green Helmet Man featured in a Reuters, Guardian or AP photo op?) This was Charles Johnson in his prime.


What is interesting is that during this period, you won’t find a lot of comments by Johnson within the forum of his own threads. Once a topic was thrown open for discussion, Johnson kept a very low profile. The posters steered the discussion and offered commentary, opinion, backup and links. Johnson rarely offered anything substantive to the threads; indeed his comments were often off-topic and unrelated to the ongoing discussion. An appearance by Johnson to comment on a topic was practically an event, and generated some excitement among those logged into the LGF community.

Charles Johnson “now” seems to be nothing more than an angry man. He rages against those who could only be described as members of a Nixon-style enemies list—the TEA Party, Andrew Breitbart[8], Dana Loesch, Pamela Geller, Robert Spencer, Glenn Beck and anyone running for the GOP nomination. Heaven help you if you deny the existence of man-made global warming, believe in a God or an afterlife, oppose abortion as a contraceptive measure, or criticize Barack Obama and the Democrats.

Instead of posting threads chronicling the anti-Semitism of radical Islam, Johnson obsesses over his perceived racism of the “right wing.” All opposition to Obama is based on racism. All disparaging remarks about the possibility of imposition of Shari’a law in areas of the United States is founded on racism, despite the fact that religion, at least as philosophy, is not race based. To Johnson, ALL criticism of Islam is rooted in racism.

In Johnson’s view, even the ascendance of Herman Cain as a frontrunner in the GOP presidential primaries was a blatant attempt by the Republicans to “hide their racism.” Johnson was very clear when he described Cain as a “token” (a thinly veiled reference to the disparaging term “token negro”).

Johnson breaks no new ground in his thread content, yet at the same time he’s inconsistent. When Johnson develops antipathy for a subject, he doesn’t filter his response. He is passionate in his public dislike for Ron Paul and Andrew Breitbart, all well and good – he’s allowed to dislike whom he pleases. But his obsessive loathing borders on the maniacal.

It is not uncommon for Johnson to put up back-to-back posts on the same topic, with only hours between them, whether it’s about Ron Paul, Breitbart, Geller, religion, AGW or anyone and anything that absorbs him at the moment. It borders on obsessive-compulsive behavior. Once he’s chosen his target du jour he is relentless until something new diverts his attention. It’s also not unusual for the serial attacks to span weeks (and sometimes months in the cases of Geller and Breitbart). His compulsion to revisit old battles is cyclical, and he seems unable to let go and move on.

He is also apparently unable to admit error, and never issues retractions when proven wrong. A prime example was during the scandal known as Weinergate. Johnson became convinced Andrew Breitbart was “framing” U.S. Rep. Anthony Weiner and posted numerous threads in one week castigating Breitbart. Even when confronted with undeniable evidence of Weiner’s malfeasance (including Weiner’s own admission of guilt) Johnson continued to hold Breitbart accountable for Weiner’s actions.

The Charles Johnson of today avoids debate by dismissing those who disagree with his world view with insulting snark and ad hominem attacks. He becomes rabidly hysterical at AGW skeptics, brushing away facts that contradict the pro-AGW position, and dismisses credentialed skeptics as anti-science hacks. This is a 180 degree reversal from his previous position.

Prior to 2009, he held Al Gore and his ravings up to scorn. But now he is a pro-AGW convert and will brook no opposition, even when confronted with evidence of manipulating the data and evidence that the earth is cooling. When asked about it he offers little more than “I read up on the subject and I changed my mind.” When cornered, his canned response is to provide self-referential links to Little Green Footballs, or more often to state “we’ve already covered that,” thus avoiding the argument. To sum it up, Charles Johnson is always right. Why? Because.

But more significant are his pathetic attempts at reinstating his former glory as a national figure.

In November 2009, relatively ignored by the left-wing blogs and de-linked from conservative sites due to his vitriolic personal attacks, Johnson published his tome “Why I Parted Ways With the Right.”[9] It was a list of ten talking points, long on hyperbole and short on cogency and fact. While Johnson’s motives for such a public statement remain unclear, Robert Stacy McCain, former blogging ally, offers his own analysis:

“Exactly what prompted this? Why this? Why now? Your guess is as good as mine.

No, that’s wrong. My guess is probably much better than yours, because I followed the whole thing—LGF and the Madness of King Charles—back to its roots. So far as can be determined, CJ’s descent into madness began when Johnson attacked Pamela Geller for her attendance at the October 2007 Brussels conference.

CJ kept up the attacks, which expanded to include Jihad Watch, Gates of Vienna, Diana West and others—serially throwing them under his Little Green Bus—but the rest of the conservative blogosphere tried to ignore it. Shortly before the 2008 election, CJ declared Robert Spencer of JihadWatch unlinkable.”[10]

And there would be more room under the bus.

Since January 2009, Johnson has made room for Victor Davis Hansen, Mark Steyn, Charles Krauthammer and Thomas Sowell, among others, labeling them idiots with little or no factual rebuttal. You may not agree with any of the aforementioned people on the basis of ideology, but they are learned and published men. For Johnson, lacking any recognized credentials or expertise, to call them idiots is patently absurd.

Whatever Johnson’s motives, it was entirely unnecessary. Other than a quick traffic spike, or a plea from Dennis Prager for Johnson to return to the fold[11], the lasting result of Johnson’s diatribe was that the right essentially told him not to let the door smack his ass on the way out. Meanwhile, many liberal blogs chuckled to themselves about The New Charles Johnson, because they remembered The Old Charles Johnson. Johnson earned his reputation for burning bridges, and now he’s burned both ends.

There has been conjecture that the number of comments Johnson posted on his own threads reflected his change of politics. In the years of 2005 and 2006, Johnson averaged 69 comments on Little Green Footballs per month. By 2007, the number jumped to 435; in 2008 to 733. In 2009 (the year of his pivotal announcement rejecting the right wing) he opined in no less than 15,789 comments, 1,316 per month, an increase of 170% from the prior year, and a whopping 300% increase from his commenting frequency in 2007. There is no doubt that something significant happened to Charles Johnson during the epiphany that steered him away from conservative politics, and we’re not going to guess.

An interesting analysis was made by an apolitical group of internet sleuths known as The Boiler Room Crew. Collecting and comparing statistical data directly from Little Green Footballs, they produced statistics and graphs that illustrate a correlation.

In 2011, he averaged more than 450 comments per month. But the real problem here is not that Charles comments, it is that he brings no special erudition to the table, no real insight or analysis. And his new, progressive members fall in step behind him. Gone are the multi-paragraph posts bulging with research; gone is the debate of different points of view. Why? This brings us to the second factor in LGF’s decline – The Bannings.

[Caveat: In no way is this monograph comprehensive, nor is it intended to defame or otherwise impugn Charles Johnson, Little Green Footballs or anyone associated with any blog. Any and all conjecture should be intuitively obvious to the casual observer. This is not Wikipedia; however, if any readers find fault with this monograph, please leave comments with verifiable backup and we’ll correct factual errors.]

[Coming up: Part 3 – The Bannings]

[1] Killian Documents Controversy

[2] “Buckhead”

[3] Johnson’s “throbbing memo” .gif animation may be viewed at Wkipedia:

[4] Pacetown archive via The WayBack Machine.

[5] “Revisiting Rathergate”, Diary of Daedalus, 4 June 2012

[6] “Islamic Rage Boy” Wikipedia Many images may be found with a Google Image search.

[7] “Green Helmet Man” Wikipedia Many images may be found with a Google Image search.

[8] This series predates the untimely demise of Andrew Breitbart who passed away on 1 March 2012.


[10] McCain, Robert Stacy, “Charles Johnson Parts Ways With Reality,” The Other McCain website.

[11] Prager, Dennis, “An Open Letter to Charles Johnson,” Frontpage website.

[Updated links and title. –Ed]

127 Comments on “The Ruse and Fail of Little Green Footballs: Part II – The Ascendance”

  1. Pakimon says:

    It borders on obsessive-compulsive behavior. Once he’s chosen his target du jour he is relentless until something new diverts his attention.

    Many a bag of Cheetos found that out the hard way, much to their dismay. 😆

  2. Pakimon says:

    Looks like Chunky is going “race detective” in response to the Washington Examiner/FoxNews story debunking the “Obama grew up a poor black child” myth.

    I’m shocked, I tell you, SHOCKED! 🙄

    I Can Hear RWNJ Dog Whistles, Can You? 5 hours ago

    Hey Chunky! Those aren’t “Dog Whistles” you’re hearing.

    What you’re hearing are the squealing “brown notes” blasting out of your mammoth backside.

  3. trebob says:

    If you hear all the dog whistles, you are the dog.

  4. rightymouse says:

    That granny hair of his is extremely unattractive and creepy. Reminds me of the movie “Psycho”. Ick.

  5. Speranza says:

    I still maintain he has had a nervous breakdown. I ought to feel sorry for him but…..nah.

    • Daedalus says:

      Speranza :
      I still maintain he has had a nervous breakdown. I ought to feel sorry for him but…..nah.

      That’s my theory as well.

      • Arachne says:

        Well, “live free or die” is our resident practicing professional (I am just an educated amateur) so her insight into this might be useful.

        Normally, I would be sympathetic, but the manner in which he has smeared and libeled others leaves me rather devoid of empathy,

    • Hey,
      Sorry I’m late in responding to this. Spent the day shuttling the kids to school, practices, appointments, etc
      I’ve frankly always wondered if Charles suffered one of those head injuries that changes your personality. With frontal lobe damage people may become more impulsive, have difficulty controlling their emotions, and perseverate on things. Hmmm…
      There is no official diagnosis for nervous breakdown but it often covers a number of things such as a severe stress reaction, an affective disorder with psychotic features, or some form of a psychotic disorder. I’d want to know more about Charles’ mental health history and his family history when considering those. You would think that if he experienced a nervous breakdown, he would have either had to take time off from the blog for treatment or be on medication. I don’t recall him taking several weeks off from the blog. Frankly, Luddy shows more of the patterns you see in someone with a cyclic disorder that is not being fully controlled by medication.
      These are just speculation.

  6. rightymouse says:

    I found LGF because of Rathergate & joined after that. It was a great time, not because of Charles, but because of the posters who were the best! 😦

    When Charles started commenting more frequently, I noticed that he became defensive if anyone challenged the main premise of any of his postings. The sycophancy from posters like Sharmuta and Nana became puke-worthy. Then he started letting in posters like Irish Rose and Ice Weasel. Finally, I just stopped posting.

  7. garycooper says:

    I started reading his posts pretty early on, as I was obsessed with 9-11 and the terrorist underworld, and somehow ended up there. I didn’t get involved in the discussion for a long time, and then it was just a comment here and there. I watched the group of regulars grow and evolve into a real community, while Thinass (he was riding his bike a lot then) kept out of the way, communicating only through his posts for the most part.

    The term “nervous breakdown” doesn’t really have meaning from a clinical standpoint, but then, neither does the term “crazy.” There is no doubt that something triggered a drastic change in his thinking in 2008, and to me, that change is linked irrevocably to his being spurned by Pam, which kicked off the whole Vlaams Belang zOMG episode, the war on creationists, the Night Of The Long Knives, and the series of hissy-fits that culminated in his official break from his right mind. Was there a bike accident with brain damage? A credible threat from the enemy? An offer of financial support from the loathesome Soros? All of these? I don’t know. The evidence is sketchy.

    • Arachne says:

      I have had friends that I steered to LGF in the 2003-2008 period who would tell me that they were actually afraid to post because they didn’t feel they could match the intellectual and informational level of the posters there. I told them there were those of us – like me – who were there to provide snark only. But there was so much GD’d good stuff to read every time you tuned in.

  8. garycooper says:

    Another aspect of the whole phenomenon is the rise of the conservative blogosphere which mirrored the rise of LGF, and fed its popularity as one of the elite. He loved being a part of that club back then, and participated fully in the cross-pollination aspect, linking to and being linked by all the popular kids. I’m quite sure he foresaw his future in the Moonbat Blogosphere as being very similar, but it sure hasn’t worked out that way, has it, Fatass? 😆

  9. garycooper says:

    I don’t recall seeing that photo of him before, but it’s an interesting glimpse into his old self. Clearly, he was never the most attractive person, and that hair was bitter-clinging to his hippie-musician past, but look at the goofiness and fun he appears to be having. Compare that to the dour, obese, scary-looking slug that glares sullenly back from the last images we have of him. Something happened to him. Something bad, and soul-killing. Pam, you have a lot to answer for, you little minx! 😉

    • Arachne says:

      Looking at that photo, you get verification that there was a time when Charles had an excellent sense of play.

  10. Westward Ho says:

    He must be deeply jealous of the air time Pam and Robert are getting for being the heroes of the counter Jihad movement. I mean they are famous now as it is increasingly getting clear to the dimmest of the dhimmi wits that the West is in a clash of civilisations and the war will have to be fought.

  11. Westward Ho says:

    And he was the blog father of the counter jihad movement sigh.

    • dwells38 says:

      Except they didn’t need a blog father. It would have happened without him and now that he’s disowned them anyway that makes him irrelevant. People like Spencer and Geller and all the others are talented writers and diligent workers. They have strong opinions and know their minds. Charles has none of this. He had a slight knack for branding and the shock of 9/11 landed him in the right place for a period of time. We see now though that he was a fraud, a no-talent and a flawed personality all along.

    • Speranza says:

      Not really. He was a respected and highly esteemed member and I think part of his “turn”was because he could not be the “Leader” of the movement.

  12. Westward Ho says:

    The ummah is a pandemic there is not a single infidel community(i mean the rest of the world) that likes them other then the left in the west. The rest of the world detests them and are not shy of stating that without being encumbered by political correctness.

    • dwells38 says:

      I played the Pat Condell video for my daughter last night. Because we had discussed the riots for a short current affaires essay assignment she’d had the night before. And just so she’s clear on the logical position that needs to be taken and never abandoned in the West toward Islam. The religion of rage, loser’s limp and false entitlement, that is.

  13. Westward Ho says:

    Ha ha “Ishq Rasool” or “Day of Love for the Pedophile bandit aka the prophet” is raging on in the land of the pure Pakistan, 3 dead, movie theatres torched, the mobile phones for the entire hellhole suspended and dozens injured, only a few more hours left for the action to end,
    pretty much like your average “raging” valentine’s day isn’t it this “day of love”?

    • garycooper says:

      Gotta love those incendiary little rascals, Ho! 😆

      Even though the internet is for porn and crazies, as discussed towards the end of the last thread, it also provides a way for us amateur anthropologists to study the backward cultures of the Islamists, like bugs under magnification on the Discovery Channel. Oh, look…they’re all eating each other! Gross, but fascinating.

      • Westward Ho says:

        Ha ha, more bug spray please, cartoons and movies that is all that’s required with immigration restrictions and lets do sunni and shia cartoons to encourage a feeding frenzy(pardon the mixed metaphor which relates to sharks)

  14. windbag says:

    I don’t recall when I started reading LGF, but I didn’t register for quite awhile, so I only read. When I did, I didn’t comment very much, since jumping into the conversation could be time-consuming and you had to be on your toes and prepared for some pushback. It was a good time.

    Some time after the Lizard Lounge feature was added, I realized that I was ducking in there for decent conversation and avoiding the threads. Then Chuckles began monitoring that and stalking people’s comments on other sites. My take on all that at the time was that he had built up enough of a following and figured he could peel off segments and strengthen his support. Then things got creepy. I got the boot for simply pointing out that he had become obsessed with creationism.

    He hasn’t aged well, and I don’t just mean his appearance. His mind isn’t right. His emotions are those of an abandoned child. He has no integrity. And he’s a lousy dancer.

  15. dwells38 says:

    It used to bug me but now I find it comical. That is, Johnson’s rude and even viscious dismissal of people still holding views he used to hold. You would think he would be more gentle, maybe commenting “Well, friend I used to think that too but here’s what I found out…” Instead he’s mocking and insulting and pretends like only a fucking idiot would hold such an opinion when he himself espoused it mere months before, publicly.

    He’s a POS and should be flattered that you’re going to this trouble to document his lunacy.

    • Arachne says:

      Exactly. When speaking to my moderate to liberal (moonbats are beyond explanation) friends, I will usually say “I used to see things that way myself, but……

      You can disagree without being an asshole. Fultonchain posted at the Mother Ship all the time and was very cogent and deliberate in his arguments. Wrong, of course, but cogent and deliberate.

  16. Westward Ho says:

    i registered in LGF before registration (antithesis, in pre cambrian 2003). What a supernovian brilliant site it was. The iraq war just started 2nd “intifada” was raging – a galaxy of scholars and wits tough as nails. Banned in 2011 for accusing him of stalinist digital air brushing.

    Good night folks

  17. OLT's Apocalypse Later says:

    Westward Ho :
    Ha ha, more bug spray please, cartoons and movies that is all that’s required with immigration restrictions and lets do sunni and shia cartoons to encourage a feeding frenzy(pardon the mixed metaphor which relates to sharks)

    Watch out for the sharks. They are in league with the gorillas and bears.

  18. RTR's Rude Awakening says:

    More to the point, Little Green Footballs was interesting to read simply as an observer. His blog members at the time included well-educated, well-read individuals from all walks of life – physicians, attorneys, editors, engineers, meteorologists, teachers and other professionals, with first hand knowledge of the various topics presented for discussion.

    Let’s not forget the professional military people, who also had professional insight to contribute. That was some of the most valuable input.

  19. garycooper says:

    If you see a gorilla riding either a shark or a bear, please alert Homeland Security Apocalypse Division. Also, keep an eye out for machines that project any self-awareness. I saw one the other day, pretending to be a run-of-the-mill, souped-up ’66 Camaro. I know it was a scout.

  20. Daedalus says:

    Arachne :

    I have had friends that I steered to LGF in the 2003-2008 period who would tell me that they were actually afraid to post because they didn’t feel they could match the intellectual and informational level of the posters there. I told them there were those of us – like me – who were there to provide snark only. But there was so much GD’d good stuff to read every time you tuned in.

    LGF today is a joke. I steer freinds there for laughs!

    • Arachne says:

      I have lots of friends who do the same. I always ask them if they can guess which one is me. Apparently I have predictability in the smartass department – they always guess correctly.

  21. OLT's Wearing Gloves says:

    Arachne :
    Heck, we even had a guy attached to the secret service!

    Now all they have is guys attached to other guys, usually with sticky feather costume remnants.

  22. a-naughty-mouse says:

    I think mention of Zombie and other who contributed so much to the site is an important part of the history.

    • rightymouse says:

      Chuckie’s treatment of Zombie was appalling!

      • garycooper says:

        It was appalling, but it was consistent with the way he treated everyone who helped build the blog. He was in full-on slash-and-burn mode by the time he purged Zombie, waiting for that massive influx of moonbats he’d been promised by the Good Idea Fairy.

        What is the official term for a big group of moonbats? “Murder” is already taken, for crows. “Gaggle,” for geese. “Covey,” for quail. I nominate “bummer.”

        “We were surrolunded at Urban Outfitters by a bummer of moonbats, cacking about Romney’s gaffes.”

      • garycooper says:

        *Sir Loathsome 🙄

      • rightymouse says:

        Coven = group of moonbats

      • Abu bin Reminiscing says:

        At the old LGF we’d call the big group of cacking moonbats as “a target rich enviroment”.
        Gosh I miss watching our troops blow the shit out of terrorists at LGF. Way to fuck that up, Cheetos!

  23. buzzsawmonkey says:

    Oh, what the hell, why not drag this out of the archives?

    Your Last Posting
    (Los Angeles)

    –apologies to Robert Browning and “My Last Duchess”

    That’s your last posting ever on this blog,

    And henceforth your account is blocked. You’ll dog

    My site no further with your words; your nic
Is banished, and I gave your posts the stick.

    You know I’ll call your banning here a “flounce”
    Though I’ve been waiting for some time to pounce
    On your account, and with prevarications
    Distort and demonize your observations.
    The Toad Hall where you reveled, if you please’ll
    Be given entire to the stoats and weasels,
My countenance beaming on each one that
    Comes to me bearing tales of Mole or Rat,

    Or Badger, or…sockpuppet. No, ‘t was not

    This writing only, placed you on the spot

    And caused me to invoke the ban: perhaps

    You chanced to differ with my own claptrap
    And stick to your position, or dispute
    Conventional wisdoms to which repute

    I’ve lately granted. Don’t you dare to say

    That I or my site might have lost their way
    Obsessing on my personal vendettas;
I am neither forgiving nor forgetter,

    And will not brook a failure of obesiance

    By anyone I feel owes me allegiance.
    Yes, I took Rather down, on grounds that he
    Could not support what he claimed factually;
    But now I set my sights at lower bar
    (On personalities, not things that are)
    While I squat ‘midst the wreckage I have made
    Like mad Kurtz ruling from his bush stockade,
    Ringed ’round with skulls. For I no longer deign
    To weigh a fact itself; instead, maintain

    That source determines truth, and to that end
    The nature of veracity I bend,
    Citing to midden-heaps of rankness such

    That I would not long since have scorned to touch.

    A turtle is a lizard in a shell,
    And I, lord of my self-created hell

    Remain King Yertle of the Turtle Stack
Exalted on my Posting Turtles’ backs—
    Yet conscious, as I proclaim my renown
It’s just posting turtles, all the way down,
Which is why I respond with rage and fear

    Should anyone mouth what I deem a sneer

    Or contradiction. So I flip a switch,
    And all posts stop together, with a bitch

    Given reign of my elegant designs.

    Yet, if I still retained but half a spine

    I would despise appearing to be led

    As I now seem to, by the lesser head.

    Hark! Look you! See how Glenn Beck weeps!

    Do you not loathe the company he keeps
    Regardless of whatever he might say?
    Here is the global warming word today; 

    Do not dissent, the banning stick is toward
    I care for no voice save that of accord!

    • Medchemmer says:

      Yes, my banning was called a flounce after I said I listen to Rush Limbaugh and I’m not a racist. That 10 word sentence got me banned at a blog!

      • Minnow says:

        And well it should have you Neanderthal!

      • dwells38 says:

        I too have listened to Rush for years and have never heard a racist thing out of his mouth. Yes he makes fun of black people especially when they’re pompous, like Reverends Jackson, Sharpton (have ridiculous speech quirks while not actually having impediments) or Wright (not really black, but still angry). Or Joycelin Elders and her “screwel chirdren” (like she’s fricking Chinese or something).

        I heard a black comedian on Terry Gross’ NPR show yesterday and he talked about “all the racist things that Rush Limbaugh says”. Yet the only example he could produce was the supposed NFL comment about Donovan McNabb supposedly being over promoted by the media BECAUSE he’s black. How exactly is that racist? That’s just Rush’s opinion about DM and the media’s biases. So now I have to prefer all black QBs or I’m racist? Really?

        Yet blacks can generalize the crap out of whites and/or conservatives and vote ONLY for black politicians all over the country merely because the candidate is black (even when they’re corrupts and racist themselves like Marion Berry) and no one seems to notice or care.

  24. garycooper says:

    How’s that hopenchangey stuff workin’ out for us, in the Muslim world? Pretty good, aside from a spontaneous protest here and there? Featuring spontaneous combustion?

    It’s a full-blown offensive, Fatass. Or, as you would call it, a nontroversy. Sit and spin, Chunky.
    Collapse of the Cairo Doctrine
    By Charles Krauthammer, Published: September 20

    In the week following 9/11/12 something big happened: the collapse of the Cairo Doctrine, the centerpiece of President Obama’s foreign policy. It was to reset the very course of post-9/11 America, creating, after the (allegedly) brutal depredations of the Bush years, a profound rapprochement with the Islamic world.

    Never lacking ambition or self-regard, Obama promised in Cairo, June 4, 2009, “a new beginning” offering Muslims “mutual respect,” unsubtly implying previous disrespect. Curious, as over the previous 20 years, America had six times committed its military forces on behalf of oppressed Muslims, three times for reasons of pure humanitarianism (Somalia, Bosnia, Kosovo), where no U.S. interests were at stake.

    But no matter. Obama had come to remonstrate and restrain the hyperpower that, by his telling, had lost its way after 9/11, creating Guantanamo, practicing torture, imposing its will with arrogance and presumption.

    First, he would cleanse by confession. Then he would heal. Why, given the unique sensitivities of his background — “my sister is half-Indonesian,” he proudly told an interviewer in 2007, amplifying on his exquisite appreciation of Islam — his very election would revolutionize relations.

    And his policies of accommodation and concession would consolidate the gains: an outstretched hand to Iran’s mullahs, a first-time presidential admission of the U.S. role in a 1953 coup, a studied and stunning turning away from the Green Revolution; withdrawal from Iraq with no residual presence or influence; a fixed timetable for leaving Afghanistan; returning our ambassador to Damascus (with kind words for Bashar al-Assad — “a reformer,” suggested the secretary of state); deliberately creating distance between the United States and Israel.

    These measures would raise our standing in the region, restore affection and respect for the United States and elicit new cooperation from Muslim lands.

    It’s now three years since the Cairo speech. Look around. The Islamic world is convulsed with an explosion of anti-Americanism. From Tunisia to Lebanon, American schools, businesses and diplomatic facilities set ablaze. A U.S. ambassador and three others murdered in Benghazi. The black flag of Salafism, of which al-Qaeda is a prominent element, raised over our embassies in Tunisia, Egypt, Yemen and Sudan.

    The administration, staggered and confused, blames it all on a 14-minute trailer for a film no one has seen and may not even exist.

    What else can it say? Admit that its doctrinal premises were supremely naive and its policies deeply corrosive to American influence?

    Religious provocations are endless. (Ask Salman Rushdie.) Resentment about the five-century decline of the Islamic world is a constant. What’s new — the crucial variable — is the unmistakable sound of a superpower in retreat. Ever since Henry Kissinger flipped Egypt from the Soviet to the American camp in the early 1970s, the United States had dominated the region. No longer.

    “It’s time,” declared Obama to wild applause of his convention, “to do some nation-building right here at home.” He’d already announced a strategic pivot from the Middle East to the Pacific. Made possible because “the tide of war is receding.”

    Nonsense. From the massacres in Nigeria to the charnel house that is Syria, violence has, if anything, increased. What is receding is Obama’s America.

    It’s as axiomatic in statecraft as in physics: Nature abhors a vacuum. Islamists rush in to fill the space and declare their ascendancy. America’s friends are bereft, confused, paralyzed.

    Islamists rise across North Africa from Mali to Egypt. Iran repeatedly defies U.S. demands on nuclear enrichment, then, as a measure of its contempt for what America thinks, openly admits that its Revolutionary Guards are deployed in Syria. Russia, after arming Assad, warns America to stay out, while the secretary of state delivers vapid lectures about Assad “meeting” his international “obligations.” The Gulf states beg America to act on Iran; Obama strains mightily to restrain . . . Israel.

    Sovereign U.S. territory is breached and U.S. interests are burned. And what is the official response? One administration denunciation after another — of a movie trailer! A request to Google to “review” the trailer’s presence on YouTube. And a sheriff’s deputies’ midnight “voluntary interview” with the suspected filmmaker. This in the land of the First Amendment.

    What else can Obama do? At their convention, Democrats endlessly congratulated themselves on their one foreign policy success: killing Osama bin Laden. A week later, the Salafist flag flies over four American embassies, even as the mob chants, “Obama, Obama, there are still a billion Osamas.”

    A foreign policy in epic collapse. And, by the way, Vladimir Putin just expelled the U.S. Agency for International Development from Russia. Another thank you from another recipient of another grand Obama “reset.”

  25. Bunk X says:

    AWESOME! Space Shuttle just flew over our house!

  26. Archonix says:

    For the record, Green Helmet and qanagate were broken by EU Referendum. Johnson only ever followed what others had already done.

  27. haysoos says:

    I seriously doubt girthzilla cares or even thinks about the demise of his blog…obviously he was no match intellectually with the people that called him out over the years, he created a monster that was far superior than anything he could of achieved without me…whoops, I mean most of you and others (I was just the DJ)…anyhow, after his slash and burn diet, he’s streamlined the unholy mob into a small herd of easily influenced poodles…they are his pets and he can control where and when they lick him…face it, there is some latent sexual perversity over there…of all my years on the internet, I have never witnessed such cult worship and I think chuckbutt gats off on it…cybererotica

    • rightymouse says:

      Oh, I think at some level he’s rather frantic to attract newbies to LGF. Hence all the twitter trolling. He figures any new blood who deviates from acceptable moonbatty nonsense will be quickly outed & then banned by him with a pompous adieu. Charles has become a putz & laughingstock of the internet. 😆

      • haysoos says:

        fresh meat

      • rightymouse says:

        Yup. And now he believes he has the skillz/toolz/monitorz to keep them in line. Little does he know about the posters who continue to fake him out. 😆

      • dwells38 says:

        That’s what I sense. He’s got that mean streak so in a way I wonder if he’s had a bigger hard on over the last few years having so many people to go off on and ban because they’re supposed wingnuts. He might be like Charlie Sheen, thinking he’s winning while everyone else looks on in horror.

      • poteen2 says:

        haysoos :
        fresh meat

        Fresh fruit,,,,,, and water

  28. The Osprey says:

    It was “Snapped Shot” who made “Islamic Rage Boy” famous, not Charles Johnson.

    • osprey1 says:

      And “The Nose On Your Face” , neither of which seem to be active anymore. Snapped Shot got slammed by Associated Pussheads for using their photos. Place kind of went down hill after that.

      • African Moondog says:

        Is that what happened? I was wondering why Brian closed down his site so suddenly. AP dickheads!

  29. osprey1 says:

    Speranza :
    It seems so long ago.

    The Obama years seem to have gone on forever.

  30. haysoos says:

    another Stones masterpiece from Beggars Banquet…
    Dear Doctor…thank me later

  31. Abu bin Jamming! says:

    Sorry if I posted this before. Joe Bonamassa playing Rory Gallagher’s Stratocaster while covering Rory’s “Cradle Rock”. Merriment ensues.

    • haysoos says:

      Joe B is always welcome in my select sphere of I Know What…he’s a no shit talent since he was like 12…thanks and get some Joe

  32. Pakimon says:

    Bunk posted this GIF on his website and I think it illustrates what happened with Chunky and LGF between 2002 and 2008 in a nutshell.

  33. haysoos says:

    if LGF was a drag race….
    here’s chuckX

    • livefreeor die says:

      That also makes me think of another possible analogy:
      We are the Duke boys and Chuck is Boss Hog!

      • Abu bin Squid says:

        Another possible analogy: We are the Duke Lacrosse Team and Chuck is the fat, minority, lying, basketcase, minortiy-mother, prostitute, single-parent, minority, soon to be author,….

  34. dwells38 says:

    Ha Liz Warren continues to make an ass of herself:

    Real NA Indians have seen this Chief Shitting Bull act before. They aren’t fooled by it one bit.

    Cherokee genealogist Twila Barnes:

    Let me make one thing clear. Your Native American issue has not been put to rest.

    You say your “ancestry” played no roll in your hiring. That is not the only issue. You were listed as a minority in diversity reports. That is an issue. You admit you made the schools aware of your “heritage.” They counted you as a minority in their reports to the federal government when the criteria to list you as such had a two part requirement – you had to have both the ancestry and maintain tribal ties. Something you did or said led the two schools in question to believe you met those requirements despite the fact you didn’t….

    You continue to skate around the issue by repeating the same story you heard growing up. You say you didn’t ask for documentation because you were a child. Excuse me, but you were not a child when you started “checking the box”; listing yourself in law directories as a minority; or were counted as a Native American for diversity reports.

    You were instead, an adult, 37 years old, and a lawyer, when you professionally “became” Native American. To make matters worse, your mother was still alive. Maybe children don’t ask for documentation, but adult lawyers should….

    As of today, you still refuse to release your personnel records from the University of Pennsylvania and Harvard Law School. If there is nothing to hide, why? …

    No one really cares about your family or the stories you were told growing up, but we do care about your integrity. The “Cherokee flap” is important because it shows what you have done when you thought no one was watching. It is important because it shows what you have done when you thought you wouldn’t get caught. And it is important because it reveals you still think you can get away with it now that you have been caught.

    • garycooper says:

      Running Joke is still in the race? Man, those people in Kennedy Country are tolerant, aren’t they? 😆

      • dwells38 says:

        Yes they’re very tolerant of criminals, booze runners, thugs, charlatans, drunks and perverts. They don’t trust a stand-up guy, though. Nice guys finish last doncha know.

      • rightymouse says:

        The polls have Brown ahead with a decent lead over this con-artist. Let’s pray they reflect reality.

  35. dwells38 says:

    Charles calls rep Louie Gohmert stupid but, as usual, when you actually go to the source at C-SPAN he sounds incredibly lucid, way more so than Charles and his pathetic dufus followers. Charles says he says Obama has returned us to a new Ottoman empire (which is probably right) and that’s ignorant but I’ve been listening to this guy talk about the economy and jobs for 15 minutes and none of that has even been said yet.

    Go to 4:20:00 or so and listen to him devastate the Dems on positions they held before the economic meltdown and then the awful spending and other decisions (plus their obvious hypocrisy re: Wall St and Big Oil) they made when they had all the power.

    Charles calls this guy stupid I suspect because he has a southern accent (He’s from Texas!) but in reality CJ doesn’t understand what he says about economics because it’s way over his head.

    • poteen2 says:

      Gohmert hasn’t tried to tip over Guam yet. Cant be too dumb.

      • dwells38 says:

        He isn’t even slightly dumb. And let’s compare Gohmert’s articulacy and clarity of thought to the fat, charisma-challenged CJ on Charlie Rose and his inability to clearly articulate his positions which were starting to take on a haze even then and his supposed break with the right which is explicable only if one assumes he’s always been naïve, juvenile and suffering from an attention deficit.

    • dwells38 says:

      One of Charle’s lapdogs, ‘wheatdogg’ who calls himself a history buff wants to insult Gohmert by cleverly calling him Goober-mert and tries to prove there’s no similarity between the Ottoman empire and today’s fledgeling caliphate. But then in his own pathetic and transparent Wikipedia reworded account comically makes Gohmert’s point and also proving the Republican reps subtle knowledge of past events (LOL!):

      By the 16th century, the Empire had become a major threat to Western Europe, pressing in from the east and south.


  36. Arachne says:

    Abu bin Squid :

    Another possible analogy: We are the Duke Lacrosse Team and Chuck is the fat, minority, lying, basketcase, minortiy-mother, prostitute, single-parent, minority, soon to be author,….

    Or a minority pandering District Attorney running for re-election and not giving a flying fuck about truth.

  37. dwells38 says:

    Charles calls Ann Romney “defensive and brittle”! LOL!!!

    So let me get this straight. A fat shut in is attacking a candidate’s wife who has multiple sclerosis and has beaten cancer (so far). Really?

    Hey Charles, did it ever occur to you that the Romney’s are extremely wealthy and don’t have to get on airplanes everyday (she had a scare today too when the cabin filled with smoke) to go to multiple campaign events. They could sit like fat slugs in their pajamas swilling the Dew and mashing Cheetos into their maws like you do and insult people all day long on the internet PLUS live in opulence and luxury and floating in their pool (unlike you). But they choose to seek positions of leadership and service and pay a total of 38+% of their sizeable income in taxes and charity.

    • Arachne says:

      And also note that they paid more taxes last year than they HAD to, Charles. They didn’t take all their charitable deductions. I’d also remind you that he took NO SALARY as Governor of Massachusetts and none when he ran the Olympics. Meanwhile, the skinny socialist you’re so fond of and First Lady Broad in the Beam have spent over the equivalent of Romney’s income from last year taking splendid vacations and flying to date nights and campaign appearances on our dime.

  38. garycooper says:

    The Romneys are such Good People, and Fatass is such a worthless drain on society, it’s hilarious to see him trying to critique/demonize them. He’s an abscess that needs to be drained.

    • dwells38 says:

      I know and I really do not have a problem with the Obamas personally and so I won’t smear them in that way. There’s no law against being socialists-lite and that’s their prerogative. Other than their politics they’re a lovely family and I wish them the best, but lets give the other guys a fair shake, as well. There’s no evidence the Romneys are rich, spoiled, entitled a-holes, so why even imply it as his post does. They could be drunken wrecks and he could be chasing Katy Perry quality skirt all over the world. Instead he stands by his wife and family and manages not to get a beer gut, to boot. So why??

      Oh right, unless of course you’re a desparate, pony-tailed loser with a failing blog and a flawed, implausible excuse for having forsaken a decade’s worth of commentary and contribution because of ill-requited lust and ill-conceived delusions of grandeur and self-importance.

  39. dwells38 says:

    Charles calls Romney’s tax release a comedy. Uh but fails to notice this which should wipe the smile off of his face. They paid even more than they had to. And gee who should I believe, a fat stupid, hyperbolic guitarist who posts half-truths or PricewaterhouseCoopers, many decades professional accountants and tax experts:

    Romney Paid At 14% Federal Tax Rate In 2011, Pegs 20 Year Average At 20%

    Republican Presidential candidate Mitt Romney and his wife, Ann, released their joint 2011 tax returns today, showing they paid $1.9 million in federal income tax on $13.7 million in adjusted gross income, a 14% effective tax rate. But they would have paid even less had they claimed all the charitable deductions they were entitled to, according to documents released by his campaign. In a memo to reporters, R. Bradford Malt, a partner at the law firm of Ropes & Gray, LLP, and the trustee Romney’s blind trust, said the Romneys deducted only $2.235 million of the $4 million in charitable contributions they had made “to conform to the Governor’s statement in August, based upon the January estimate of income, that he paid at least 13% in income taxes in each of the last 10 years.” President Barack Obama and his wife Michelle paid a 19% effective tax on AGI in 2011.

    In addition, the Romney campaign released a notarized letter from the Romneys’ accounting firm, PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP, stating that the Romneys’ average effective tax rate over the last two decades was 20.20%. and that their lowest annual effective rate was 13.66%. The letter did not indicate what their income was over those years and Romney has said he won’t release any of his returns from before 2010, leaving questions about what techniques he might have used to reduce his reported AGI, and what investments and accounts he might have had abroad, unanswered.

    The Romneys’ rate was higher in earlier years because of the top tax rate on long term capital gains and dividends, which make up most of their income, have been cut. In May 1997, under President Bill Clinton, the top capital gains rate was cut from 27% to 20%. The 2003 tax cut signed by President George W. Bush reduced that rate to an historically low 15% . The top tax rate on corporate dividends was 39.6% until the Bush tax cuts of 2001 began a gradual reduction in ordinary income tax rates. But in 2003, the top dividend rate was chopped to the same 15% as for capital gains. Other wealthy individuals have also seen a dramatic reduction in their effective rates. For example, according to an Internal Revenue Service report, the effective tax rate paid by the nation’s 400 highest income taxpayers fell from 29.9% in 1995 to 19.9% in 2009, the last year available.

    PWC’s letter said the Romneys’ effective state tax rate during the period had averaged 8.36%, while they had donated an average of 13.45% of their AGI, for a total of an average of 38.49% of their AGI going to federal and state income taxes and charitable giving.

    In 2011,Vice President Joe Biden and his wife, Dr. Jill Biden, paid at an effective tax rate of 22.9%, while Republican vice-presidential candidate Rep. Paul Ryan (R-Wisc), and his wife, Janna, paid at a 20% rate.

  40. dwells38 says:

    Charles tries to make some point about those who have pointed out Obama’s weird new flag logo where there are 5 red streaks that look similar to the blood smeard streaks seen outside the Libyan embassy. It’s an obvious gaffe that this is rolled out right after that catastrophe and the death of our envoys and marines. So Charles misses that whole point and shows conservatives that have incorporated the flag into their campaigns and logos. Yuh, so??? And of course theirs are all straight and lines like a normal flag. Ya know, like respecful and traditional. So he steps on his dick and proves his critics and opponents point yet again. What a douche.

    • Arachne says:

      I find it deplorable that a sitting President re-makes the flag in a salute to himself. Of course all those Obamabots pledging allegiance to OBAMA is creepy. And don’t even get me started on Jim Messina and his his pervert pose tweet.

    • Pakimon says:

      Chunky would pronounce “douche” as “doo-chay”.

      Thinks it makes him sound sophisticated or something.

  41. dwells38 says:

    OMG. I just saw that Charles posted no less than three videos by Jon Stewart supposedly “taking down” Mitt and his supposed dishonesty. As if Stewart’s intellectually any where near honest?? What a fucking pathetic idiot.

    Hey Charles I got news for ya, Stewart edits the crap out of that stuff….FOR LAUGHS! Remember you’re reposting crap from a classic short, Jewish clown that suggested we should have dropped a nuclear bomb 10 miles off of Japan and created a manmade tsunami killing more than the outright atomic bombs did. What’s next, daughter-screwing, wife-betraying Woody Allen’s take on the election?

  42. garycooper says:

    Be of good cheer, fellow patriots!

    Obama is headed for an electoral trouncing:

  43. dwells38 says:

    OK now I’m feeling a little sad mocking this poor guy. Now he cites SNL, the comedy wing of the propaganda NBC outfit: And he posts this as #19 comment ( he used to only comment way deep into the comment threads). And after like 6 hours, there are like 138 comments. In the old days there would have been around 600 or more, esp on Friday. Really a sad shadow of what it was and never will be again.

    19 Charles Johnson
    Fri, Sep 21, 2012 7:05:28pm replyquote 1downupreport

    This SNL special on MSNBC is just brutal. Loving it.

    Hey Charles, yeah they’re brutal and in the tank already for the regime. You need 20-something goof-offs to tell you to vote for the cool black-guy candidate? Sad.

  44. Minnow says:


    Dumbass thickly makes a statement – a claim – about Mr. Romney and his tax returns and then gets a WHOPPING 36 comments.

    I refuse to look – but one does wonder how many of those comments were made by fatass dumbshit.

    Fuck you Charles.

  45. Daedalus says:

    Charles would dream this scenario

  46. Pakimon says:

    Time for the Joe Biden gaffe of the day!

    “Guess what, the cheerleaders in college are the best athletes in college,” Biden said. “You think, I’m joking, they’re almost all gymnasts, the stuff they do on hard wood, it blows my mind.”

    I’m almost going to miss ol’ Slow Joe when he and President Choombama get the boot in November. 😆

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