Rescued from Memory Hole: “Fjordman: Farewell to the United Nations?” – the Complete Thread

Our defiance of Johnson’s wish to hide LGF’s old Fjordman articles continues, and this time we’ve decided to unveil the thread on the list that received the most comments. ( There’s 542 in total, many [deleted], but a baker’s dozen belong to Fjordman in this one.)

Scan the LGF daily archives on June 30, 2006, and you might notice that article # 21845 isn’t there:

littlegreenfootballs.com/article/21845_Fjordman-_Farewell_to_the_United_Nations

The Boiler Room Crew stole the strawberries, so we proudly present the thread, in its entirety:

542 comments

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1 Barbara Skolaut  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 7:30:29am replyquote

PAST time.

2 hans ze beeman  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 7:31:56am replyquote

Whatever usefulness the UN may have had was lost decades ago. It is today of little use to us, but of significant use to our enemies.

I agree.

3 just another infidel  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 7:31:58am replyquote

I would like to see the U.N. move to Brussels or some other faraway place, but it is important that the jihad supporters in the U.N. are exposed through their own statements and resolutions

4 Abu Maven  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 7:33:53am replyquote

The UN will actually benefit the Islamofascists in the coming war, just as the League of Nations served to benefit the Nazis.

5 BabbaZee  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 7:34:24am replyquote

Cant say farewell soon enough to suit me…

6 uncle_monkey  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 7:34:49am replyquote

Rhetorical question?

I think it’s obvious. A great, noble idea – but a failed experiment in the end.

Time to throw away the petri dish – it’s getting stanky.

7 Fjordman  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 7:35:12am replyquote

Thanks for the link, Charles.

I would like to see the U.N. move to Brussels

No way in hell! We should rather dismantle the other organization that is situated in Brussels.

8 Golden Jerusalem  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 7:35:36am replyquote

Goodbye League of United Nations…

Door. Ass. You know the drill…

9 realwest  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 7:35:36am replyquote

I think the UN has served whatever useful purpose it ever had a long time ago and should be disbanded.
If not, then:
UN out of the US and
US out of the UN!

10 alkmyst  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 7:35:42am replyquote

Farewell?

No. Get the F*ck out. Now.

11 Golden Jerusalem  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 7:36:48am replyquote

#7 Fjordman:

No way in hell! We should rather dismantle the other organization that is situated in Brussels.

It’ll collapse under it’s own weight soo enough, I reckon…

12 karmic_inquisitor  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 7:37:39am replyquote

Because the UN prevents conflicts from being settled – from progressing to the point where one side imposes will on the other – it perpetuates conflict.

Same goes for the insistence on “proportional force” – no one can win such a war, so it goes on forever.

The UN makes suffering a permanent state of being for many of the world’s people. As it is run today it is one of the world’s greatest obstacles to Peace and Prosperity.

13 jaynumber13  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 7:38:34am replyquote

#10 alkmyst 7/30/2006 09:35AM PDT

Farewell?

No. Get the F*ck out. Now.

Double dittos.

14 sngnsgt  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 7:38:55am replyquote

“Keep your friends close, your enemies closer.”

/ONLY good reason for UN in US.

15 redshirt  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 7:39:24am replyquote

I agree, but what can we as citizens do to make this happen? As far as I know, I have never heard any politicians even hint at making something like this happen.
Perhaps if there were some form of “National referendum” it could happen. Without that, however, we can bitch all we want, but we can’t make it go away.

16 karmic_inquisitor  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 7:39:31am replyquote

#7 fjordman –

NATO or the EU?

It will be one or the other in my mind.

17 Roger  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 7:39:52am replyquote

Past time.

Destination Zimbabwe! Let them pillage there.

18 kafir  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 7:40:18am replyquote

Charles, have you seen this video? shows the terrorists launching missles from behind an apartment building in Qana.

Hmmm

19 BabbaZee  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 7:40:53am replyquote

The Pillage People !
Image: lerwick.jpg

20 Golden Jerusalem  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 7:41:02am replyquote

#14 sn(…):

Keep your friends close, your enemies closer.

Keep your friends close. Kill your enemies.

Fixed that 😛

21 Fjordman  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 7:42:14am replyquote

It’ll collapse under it’s own weight soo enough, I reckon…

I hope so, and partly believe so. The only chance Europe has of surviving now is if we get rid of the EU, soon. It will still be an ugly fight, but at least we have a chance. I think the EU will become increasingly totalitarian, which will also accelerate its disintegration.

In Praise of the First and Second Amendments

In a true, totalitarian society such as the old Soviet Union, crime rates are usually low because of the crushing state control of all its citizens. Supposedly, street crime in Moscow in the USSR was rare, probably because the state itself was the biggest criminal. In contrast, in the European Union of today, which is not a totalitarian society, at least not yet, crime rates are booming in major cities. At the same time, authorities are stepping up censorship efforts, openly talking about media “speech codes” and aggressively slapping labels such as “racism” or “xenophobia” on anybody daring to criticize the immigration policies or pointing out the inadequate response to Muslim gang violence.

There is obviously a connection here: The less control the authorities have with Muslims, the more control they want to exercise over non-Muslims. As problems in Europe get worse, which they will, the EU will move in an increasingly repressive direction until it either becomes a true, totalitarian entity or falls apart. This strange mix of powerful censorship of public debate, yet little control over public law and order, has by some been labelled anarcho-tyranny.

The reason why European authorities are becoming increasingly totalitarian in their censorship efforts is to conceal the fact that they are no longer willing or able to uphold even the most basic security of their citizenry. If their governments are no longer capable of protecting them and their freedom of speech, Europeans may have to arm themselves to do this on their own. Michael Moore’s books, ridiculing American “gun nuts,” are bestsellers in Europe. Sadly, The Bill of Rights is less popular reading. Perhaps the time has come for Europeans to also take a second look at the Second Amendment – The right for the people to keep and bear arms.

22 Fjordman  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 7:43:52am replyquote

#16: The EU. NATO can only survive if we get rid of the EU.

23 Golden Jerusalem  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 7:45:10am replyquote

#21 Fjordman:

I hope so, and partly believe so.

As do I.

EU = Kolos paa lerfoedder / Giant. Clay feet.

24 realwest  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 7:48:08am replyquote

#20 Golden Jerusalem – nice editing!

25 W-lover  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 7:50:34am replyquote

UN out of Planet Earth!

26 sngnsgt  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 7:51:18am replyquote

#20 Golden Jerusalem

Keep your friends close, your enemies closer.

Keep your friends close. Kill your enemies.

Fixed that 😛

Thanks for that, but you get the idea.

27 alkmyst  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 7:51:29am replyquote

#20 Golden Jerusalem 7/30/2006 09:41AM PDT

Keep your friends close. Kill your enemies.

Fixed that 😛

Exactly.

28 humanity  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 7:53:37am replyquote

I agreee,,,

29 grayp  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 7:53:57am replyquote

Fjordman, from your piece:

We could create a Democratic Union, where only democratic states could become members. This would automatically exclude pretty much all of the Islamic world

Except Indonesia, Iraq, Iran, Lebanon, Afghanistan, Egypt…

No thank you.

The UN is annoying. The EU is much more dangerous in my view.

30 Poitiers-Lepanto  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 7:55:13am replyquote

I FOUND A NEW SECRETARY FOR THE UNITED NATIONS !

(The link is on Drudge):

Gibson then launched into a barrage of anti-Semitic statements: “F***g Jews… The Jews are responsible for all the wars in the world.” Gibson then asked the deputy, “Are you a Jew?”

He has all the necessary qualifications.

31 zulubaby  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 7:56:56am replyquote

Fjordman, I like Roger’s suggestion of Zimbabwe. What do you think?

32 Golden Jerusalem  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 7:57:28am replyquote

Hey all,

I’ve viewed a bit of the available footage from Kfra Kana.

Mind you, this is from deep in Hezb’allah land, so any footage is completely controlled by them. I saw clearly staged “walk-by’s” in a place that appeared to have no people. However, they sort of conveniently streamed past the camera and wailed as they passed and stuff, you know the old routine.

It appears to me that the damaged area is extremely extensive, and not merely the result of the single bomb wihch presumably leveled the bldg with people inside it.

Also, it looks like there could be several separate pieces of ornance had gone in.

Now, obviously this might indicate that the IAF has “been there before” and hit K.K. multiple times.

I’m sure they have, however: has anyone had a chance to investigate how much of the extensive area damage may be caused by secondary explosions – ie. Hazb’allah ordnance hit & blasting off?

33 finnman69  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 7:58:41am replyquote

even the Lebanese are so mad they are eating UN flags

[Link: d.yimg.com…]

34 zulubaby  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 7:58:46am replyquote

Poitiers-Lepanto, LOL! Hysterical.

35 nonic  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 7:59:19am replyquote

I LONG to see the US out of the UN, and the UN out of NYC.

36 Thanos  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 7:59:36am replyquote

#21 Thanks for the excellent analysis and writing Fjordman, I also linked to the Brussels Journal article this am, it is very well done.
OT:
I’ve got my update started, and in process ran across this:

Arutz Sheva is reporting that IDF forces have interupted terrorists from setting a time bomb at Itamar in Samaria, and the sappers have been called in to defuse it.

(IsraelNN.com) Army soldiers several minutes ago prevented an attack on the community of Itamar in northeastern Samaria when they spotted three Arab terrorists laying an explosive device. The terrorists fled, and soldiers discovered a time bomb along the security fence. Sappers have been called to neutralize the device

37 massachusetts republican  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 7:59:56am replyquote

The UN is good. If ya don’t want us in the UN your a right wing neocon nut case. every person at the UN is there to serve others. 1+5=apple!

hey, come see my new blog…its neatoh.

38 AW  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 8:00:19am replyquote

Lots of interesting pictures taken by soldiers during the incursion into Lebanon:

[Link: www.fresh.co.il…]

39 Nordish12  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 8:00:35am replyquote

Guys, I need some quick advice … is it possible to rotate a video clip? Unfortunately I captured a nice clip of Naturei Karta, but it is sideways … need to get it right! To be included in a new report which I am working on now … some nice pics too!

40 Hucbald  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 8:00:51am replyquote

#1

Agreed. That ship has sailed (From Turtle Bay).

The ONLY Places the UN would now be at home would be Paris or – even better – Mecca.

Call a spade a spade.

41 Manker  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 8:01:04am replyquote

OT: An important question to ask

What if Lebanon’s army joins Hizbullah?

He told a German magazine that he “respects Hizbullah” and its terrorist leader Hassan Nasrallah, and he has threatened to turn the Lebanese army against Israel. This would cause a self-inflicted, and perhaps lethal, wound on Lebanon.

NOW, ALL of a sudden, its tune has changed. Suddenly its army is strong enough to take on Israel, and it is willing to collaborate with the terrorist organization from which it previously sought to disassociate itself. Nor can the Lebanese government plausibly argue that this about-face has been caused by the Israeli decision to have its ground troops cross over into Lebanon.

Well it looks like Lebanon wants to do something very stupid.

42 ibmkeyboard  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 8:02:57am replyquote

Muslim states have demanded, and often received, special treatment at the United Nations.” “As a result, non-diplomatic terms such as ‘blasphemy’ and ‘defamation of Islam’ have seeped into the United Nations system, leading to a situation in which non-Muslim governments accept certain rules of conduct in conformity with Islamic law (the Shari’a) and acquiesce to a self-imposed silence regarding topics touching on Islam.”

A religion cannot be destroyed. Islam is here till the end of time. And out of 1.2 billion Muslims only 10-15 percent is Islamsicks,
But that is 150,000,000 terrorists that want you dead.
We have to control those that would destroy us.
Or we will be sacrificed.

/We also have to control the United Nations or they will destroy us.

43 surfer dude  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 8:03:39am replyquote

Great idea..

We need to load Kofi onto a boat, stand on the shore, hold hands and sing the famous Lawrence Welk “Good Night” song as Kofi sails off into the sunset.

Then when he’s far enough away, we let his good ol’ Hezbellah buddies fire one of their fancy land to sea missles (you know, the ones that that UN resolution was supposed to take away) and blow his butt up good, real good.

44 dj p1ll  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 8:03:50am replyquote

OT

Image: _pal_isr.jpg

I think this image says it all…

45 victor_yugo  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 8:04:25am replyquote

September 11th made it glaringly obvious that it was time to eject the Unholy Nations from New York City and the whole United States.

If they continue to insist on being a gathering ground for the world’d thugs, then it’s time to revoke their “diplomatic” status and deport them. Let them become a war target. They no longer give a shit about their charter; why should we give a shit about them?

46 Fjordman  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 8:05:17am replyquote

Zulubaby: Zimbabwe is a good choice 🙂

#29 grayp: As I said in the article, I’m honestly not quite sure what the UN should be replaced with. But we do need to get rid of it.

I perfectly agree with you that the EU is even more dangerous, but they are both organizations for post-Western post-democrats.

47 zulubaby  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 8:05:28am replyquote

What is this biting the flag thing? A new craze? There was a picture of Palestinian women doing the same thing.

48 Golden Jerusalem  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 8:06:11am replyquote

#38 AW:

Hey, thanks for that link.

Made me feel so proud of Tzahal.

49 j-damn  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 8:10:49am replyquote

ibmkeyboard sez:

A religion cannot be destroyed.

You see a lot of dudes worshipping Zeus lately? Or Ra?

50 Canadian Imperialist Running Dog  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 8:12:33am replyquote

Fjordman, from your piece:

We could create a Democratic Union, where only democratic states could become members. This would automatically exclude pretty much all of the Islamic world

although not a terrible idea, it still needs a whole lot of refining, and doesn’t change that alot of undesirables will still end up running the place…

Impeach Louise Arbour from the UNHCHR, or fire her preferably from a cannon

51 TotallySirius  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 8:14:34am replyquote

#49 j-damn

Don’t see too many ninjas,thuggees or hashashins these days either.

52 Poitiers-Lepanto  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 8:14:43am replyquote

No, seriously, he is perfect, look at the second episode:

MALIBU, Calif., July 29 — The film star and director Mel Gibson apologized Saturday for belligerent behavior and for saying what he called “despicable” things that he does “not believe to be true” when he was arrested here on a drunken-driving charge early Friday.

But Mr. Gibson, in a statement, stopped short of addressing claims that he made virulently anti-Semitic remarks to an arresting officer, as described on a Web site that posted several pages of the sheriff’s report.

Kofi, you’re NOBODY, this one is WAY better than you !

/there are many new Lizards, I better put a sarc tag here.

53 Doss  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 8:16:33am replyquote

Fjordman

Don’t know if you saw my post to you in another thread, but have you seen this:

Jens Orback, Democracy Minister in the Social Democratic Swedish government, is worried about “the public’s lack of faith in politicians.” Yet the same Orback said during a radio debate that: “We must be open and tolerant towards Islam and Muslims because when WE BECOME A MINORITY, they will be so towards us.” It sounded almost too crazy even for Sweden that a minister could say something like this in public, so I checked with several independent sources, and apparently, he really did say this.

54 FrogMarch  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 8:17:29am replyquote

The UN is an Islamic entity. The UN is a corrupt entity. The left worship the UN.

55 Golden Jerusalem  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 8:17:42am replyquote

#41 manker:

Well it looks like Lebanon wants to do something very stupid.

Bring. It. On.

Take a look at my #32. I’d like to hear your opinion.

56 hans ze beeman  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 8:18:15am replyquote

OT: This is rich: Mosque on Wheels Takes Islam to the German Streets

This summer, a group of Muslims is touring Germany with a mosque on wheels. They hope their ”rolling mosque” will help change German public opinion, which often associates Islam and Muslims with terror and fanaticism.
On a recent Friday afternoon, a truck with a large trailer pulled up across from the historic town hall in Hanau, near Frankfurt. Oriental music blasted from the speakers, attracting attention.
A stage had been built on top of the trailer. A cupola and two minarets soared above the roof. Pillars and arches decorated the sides. Alongside was written “Islamobil,” a word made up from the German words for Islam and automobile.
The Islamobil is a sort of travelling mosque, one that aims to inform Germans about Islam. A group of young Muslims from the small city of Brühl near Cologne came up with the idea in 2001 and will travel around Germany with it this summer.

57 Merovign  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 8:19:09am replyquote

#42 ibmkeyboard

A religion cannot be destroyed.

Talk to any Sebaeans lately? Moche sacificers? Worshippers of Nannar Sin?

I do get your point that the comments you’re criticizing are unrealistic, though, and that what those commenters want almost certainly just isn’t going to happen, at least not in the next few lifetimes.

I still think the trilemma exists: Either Islam must reform radically, it must be reduced to a tiny remnant (no means implied), or it will reduce everything else to a tiny remnant.

Islam has effectively eliminated Zoroastrianism and Mithraism, and half a dozen other middle-Eastern cultures. It will keep doing so as it expands into new areas – African animism and Christianity, Thai Buddhism, and so forth.

It’s built into the code, so the code has to change. Unfortunately, not changing the code is also built into the code…

58 American Infidel[deleted]  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 8:20:02am
59 Killgore Trout  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 8:20:39am replyquote

Somebody (not me) made a funny…
The Zionist Australian Media Seeks To Deceive Kossacks
obvious moby yet still funny, I almost fell for it myself.

60 nonic  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 8:20:56am replyquote

#42 ibmkeyboard

A religion cannot be destroyed. Islam is here till the end of time.

That’s a rather broad statement with no substantiation.

The world has seen lots of religions that have come and gone. (You still got Aztecs doing human sacrifices?)

There’s no history for anything until it happens.

Islam is pushing REAL HARD to get itself destroyed.

61 Merovign  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 8:21:29am replyquote

Oh, and as far as the UN: Again, reform or go away.

And that reform must include a recognition that there are moral differences between regimes – i.e. China and Cuba don’t GET to be on the human rights commission, because they are massive abusers.

Otherwise, since there are so many greedy and abusive governments, the UN must by definition become (as it has) a dictator’s club.

62 Thanos  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 8:22:01am replyquote

#39 Nordish — I did a quick search of the plugins for media player and quicktime, & couldn’t find anything that would specifically say it would do this. If you are in a hurry, just play the video and use a camera to re-record it from the screen in the orientation you want.

63 RedPepper  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 8:27:40am replyquote

The UN should be moved to a location that is more in tune with what it has become.

IMHO, Damascus would do nicely …

64 American Infidel[deleted]  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 8:29:41am
65 rokbassist  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 8:29:44am replyquote

As usual, great article. I still don’t see the US pulling out of the UN anytime in the foreseeable future. The lefties/Demos/Rinos will never allow it. It will likely require some catastrophic event to trigger such an outcome, in which case it will be a moot point by then anyway.

66 doppelganglander  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 8:31:24am replyquote

OT: Reporting from London, where I’m visiting on business. There was an ugly little pro-Pali rally in Trafalgar square today. Hard to tell the attendance figures since it was a lovely day and lots of tourists around ignoring the fools with megaphones. I’d guess maybe 1000 there specifically for the rally, if that, based on people carrying flags and wearing pro-pali t-shirts. I wanted to play zombie, I had my camera, but I didn’t think I could keep my temper. So I just headed for the National Gallery and enjoyed 800 years of European painting, especially the Christian art.

67 zulubaby  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 8:32:58am replyquote

finnman69 (#33)

Here we go … Palestinian women ripping an Israeli flag with their teeth. They’re a very classy people. Gentle too.

68 Ward Cleaver  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 8:33:40am replyquote

I would like to see the UN move to somewhere in Darfur, or maybe Mogadishu.

69 Fjordman  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 8:34:24am replyquote

#53: Yes, I wrote that piece.

It’s the same in Norway. I believe this is the first time in human history that the leaders of a nation as part of a deliberate government policy are wiping our their own people, present this as an act of tolerance and say that everybody who disagrees is a “racist.”

I’ve been pondering about the cause of this for several years. Neither Norway nor Sweden have any colonial history, so that’s not it. The only possible explanation I can find for this is that we are white.

Multiculturalism and Political Correctness are not about equality, they are just the mirror image of White Supremacy. White people have simply been defined as a priory evil and do not have the right to self-preservation. I think I’ll label this Caucasophobia, the fear of white people, or perhaps the White Viciousness Syndrome.

I do not see why I should have to choose between White Supremacy and White Viciousness. The correct response to White Supremacy is to treat white people exactly as you treat everybody else. Not more, but also not less. I have a right to preserve my culture, too, and cannot see anything “racist” in no wanting to limit immigration in order not to become a persecuted minority in my own country.

I can’t see any evidence that white people are more “racist” than Asians or Africans, either.

70 cybermonk  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 8:34:35am replyquote

Emergency Aliyah, the reality

Many people have talked about “emergency Aliyah”, the evacuation of thousands of Jews to Israel when it has become too dangerous for them to stay in their home countries.

As the situation develops in Lebanon and Israel, this no longer is an academic exercise, a what if situation.

The forces of Islam are gradually taking over Europe, Asia and making inroads here in the US. Their numbers are increasing and they are becoming bolder with each new demonstration. The governments of Europe and the US are bending over backwards to be tolerant to Islam, despite numerous indications that Al Queda, Hezballah and Hamas are activating terror cells in Britain and the US. All the while the MSM carries the propaganda “water” for these groups, egged on by a vicious anti-semetic left that vilifies Israel at every opportunity. Anti-semetic incidents in France, former Soviet Union, England, Spain and elsewhere are at levels equal to or greater than 1936 Germany. The Arab Muslims are spending millions for propaganda demonizing Israel and Jews. Main stream Americans are openly anti-semetic and many in the US are outwardly tolerant of Jews, but under the surface they would be happy for all Jews to disappear.
Although it is still safe for Jews here in the US, the climate is chilling and a flareup of tensions between Jerusalem and Washington could make Jews persona non grata in the US.
Much is said of the support of mainline Christians in the US, particularly the evangelicals. While this support is welcomed and appreciated, these Christians themselves are being targeted by the atheistic left and a fighting for their own religious freedom and so may not be able to help the Jews in the US like they would like to.
Anti-semetism will soon get so bad that Jews may have to leave with just the clothes on their back, a fate reminiscent of past pogroms in Europe.
What is needed is a firm commitment from the Israeli government for the following;

1. Plans for rapid evacuation from European countries to Israel for Jews by Israeli airlines, perhaps assisted by friendly airlines, depending on the numbers involved.
2. Provision for temporary housing for those people leaving their homes in Europe and elsewhere.
3. Provision for those who arrive to bring their own weapons, if they have them, so that they can help defend Israel and supplement the IDF and protect themselves.
4. Simplify the right of return for Jews so that all those with a Jewish parent, father or mother are given Israeli citizenship and accepted for Aliyah.
5. Stop all giving away of land to the Arabs. All the refugees from Europe and elsewhere should be given caravans in Yesha.
6. All Arabs who do not wish to pledge allegiance to the State of Israel should be given just compensation and a plane ticket to any destination, other than Israel.
7. All those who refuse to leave will be forcibly transferred.
8. It must be understood that these measures are being taken to save the Jewish people from the GENOCIDE planned by the Arabs, assisted by the world media, the left and anti-semites everywhere. We will have NO CHOICE. Otherwise we will disappear as a people.
9. Plans should be in the works now, enlisting the help of those Jews of wealth, who mistakenly have been generous to those who would murder Jews, who now can use their money to help save the Jewish people. It should be noted to these Jews of wealth, that when the time comes, all that they have, money, property, possessions will be forfeit. As before in history, Jews left with nothing more than the clothes on their back and whatever they could carry, this will happen again. We should plan for it.
10. There are many other things that need to be done, the government of Israel needs to make significant changes, the Judiciary, the Knesset, removal of Arabs from the government. Imprisonment of left wing agitators and traitors and exiling those who would help our enemies.
These are just some of the things that need to be done, there are many more.

71 Ward Cleaver  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 8:34:41am replyquote

#67 zulubaby

Hope she got a loose tooth doing that.

72 newsjunkie_ky  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 8:37:13am replyquote

Jens Orback, Democracy Minister in the Social Democratic Swedish government, is worried about “the public’s lack of faith in politicians.” Yet the same Orback said during a radio debate that: “We must be open and tolerant towards Islam and Muslims because when WE BECOME A MINORITY, they will be so towards us.”

I got news for him, If islam becomes the majority, there won’t be a minority. islam– you’re either one of us, or your dead.

73 Manker  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 8:37:16am replyquote

#32/55 Golden Jerusalem 7/30/2006 09:57AM PDT

Hey all,

I’ve viewed a bit of the available footage from Kfra Kana.

Mind you, this is from deep in Hezb’allah land, so any footage is completely controlled by them. I saw clearly staged “walk-by’s” in a place that appeared to have no people. However, they sort of conveniently streamed past the camera and wailed as they passed and stuff, you know the old routine.

It appears to me that the damaged area is extremely extensive, and not merely the result of the single bomb wihch presumably leveled the bldg with people inside it.

Also, it looks like there could be several separate pieces of ornance had gone in.

Now, obviously this might indicate that the IAF has “been there before” and hit K.K. multiple times.

I’m sure they have, however: has anyone had a chance to investigate how much of the extensive area damage may be caused by secondary explosions – ie. Hazb’allah ordnance hit & blasting off?

I’ve heard about this. Israeli spokespeople have been talking about how they hit NEXT to the building. While true that might have caused damage and collapse, an obvious question is how close. But even more important what did it hit next to the building?

I really do believe that Hizb’allah set up the Katyusha launcher next to a large amount of explosives. Obviously an IAF pilot would have gone and blasted the launcher but then set off the other explosives, thus destroying the building. It really would be quite easy for Hizb’allah to do, and I imagine it wouldn’t be a challenge to do it again.

So GJ I do believe as you say if someone looked at the site there’d be quite a large amount of damage from secondary explosions. (Does Google Earth or some other Satellite company have pics of the blast area after the attack?).

Anyways, I really doubt the Lebanese Army would join in. Pretty much every base is gone within an hour and the Lebanese army is more useful to Hizb’allah when Israel isn’t destroying it’s useful equipment.

74 zulubaby  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 8:37:37am replyquote

AW (#38)

Crying my eyes out from those pictures. G-d bless them, always.

75 itellu3times  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 8:37:40am replyquote

Y’know, the UN is a good global forum. I always thought it was founded mainly as a chowder and marching society, good for debate and bloviation but no more. It was only in the last few years that I looked at the pretentious “charter”, where it claims to be a world government. What idiot US president ever got us to sign that? 99% of the charter has never been acted on, of course, and now these comic-opera ICC types in Brussels are busy stealing its thunder – or are they claiming authority *from* that charter?

Anyway, the charter should be disowned, but the institution is probably worth saving in some form.

So, why don’t we rotate its location, every ten or twenty years move it somewhere else? I suggest Baghdad for the period 2007 – 2016, or Vienna, or maybe Las Vegas.

76 Ward Cleaver  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 8:38:23am replyquote

Looks like your site is getting hammered, zulubaby. At least the photo gallery.

77 Golden Jerusalem  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 8:38:59am replyquote

#57 AI:

LOL. Thanks!

Subsequent events have since kinda overtaken my debate with that supposedly Lebanese guy.

I wonder how he takes Kfar Kana (The Sequel)…

I’m still curious to find out how much of the damage in K.K. (and it was extensive, by the looks of things) may have been caused by secondary blasts, as Hezb’allah ordnance was hit and went off.

Given that no impartial outsiders can access the site, evidence of that may never come out…

Unless Israel conquers K.K. soon…

78 really grumpy big dog johnson  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 8:39:52am replyquote

Oh, and Tony Blair…

Blair = Hizballah appeaser

You are rotten scum. I used to respect you, now I don’t care what happens to you. You brought this upon yourself by shifting with the winds of public opinion, showing clearly that you are NO MAN OF CHARACTER.

Go away.

79 zulubaby  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 8:40:34am replyquote

Ward Cleaver, I hope they choked on it. LOL.

80 newsjunkie_ky  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 8:41:19am replyquote

67 Zulubaby

Here we go … Palestinian women ripping an Israeli flag with their teeth. They’re a very classy people. Gentle too.

Maybe that’s why muslim men are so ‘cranky’. They need a ‘Lewenski’ but are afraid of their women.

81 egoist  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 8:41:31am replyquote

Get us out of the UN, and get the UN out of us!

82 zulubaby  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 8:42:37am replyquote

Ward Cleaver, yeah, it took me a couple tries before I could get in there. It’s well worth it.

83 rokbassist  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 8:43:00am replyquote

#21 Fjordman

The UN can attempt to have weapons banned in the US all it wants, and the Democrats can try the same. But if they think for a second that Americans are going to waltz down to the local police station and turn in their guns like the suckers in England, it ain’t ever happening. And any attempts at forceable confiscation, which literally would have to be door-to-door, would result in local and civil war. The situation in New Orleans after Katrina was an abberation, in which a few isolated people in a completely abandoned city were easily de-armed.
Trying the same in a fully populated city is a totally different story. In my area there’s probably a gun in at least 60% of the homes, if not more (gun=handgun, shotgun, rifle, etc). The United States and its habits of gun ownership is the single biggest threat to the UN and its desires for world-ownership. So the UN and Islam are taking the best course of action: slow demographic change while turning the rest of the world against us. And unless the US government grows a pair, they’re making good headway.

84 Ed Mahmoud abu al Qahool Martyr Brigades  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 8:46:19am replyquote

*LGF Readers- Attention*
I am planning to post a brightly colored series of comments and links in a large font about this system, which I believe will menace somewhere between Miami and Cape Hatteras, most likely the Charleston, SC area, next weekend, during my lunch hour tomorrow on the most recent thread posted then, unless its something really sad like dead nuns and orphans, in which case I’ll post on the second most recent thread.

85 Golden Jerusalem  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 8:47:32am replyquote

#73 manker:

I’ve heard about this. Israeli spokespeople have been talking about how they hit NEXT to the building. While true that might have caused damage and collapse, an obvious question is how close. But even more important what did it hit next to the building?

I really do believe that Hizb’allah set up the Katyusha launcher next to a large amount of explosives. Obviously an IAF pilot would have gone and blasted the launcher but then set off the other explosives, thus destroying the building. It really would be quite easy for Hizb’allah to do, and I imagine it wouldn’t be a challenge to do it again.

So GJ I do believe as you say if someone looked at the site there’d be quite a large amount of damage from secondary explosions. (Does Google Earth or some other Satellite company have pics of the blast area after the attack?).

Anyways, I really doubt the Lebanese Army would join in. Pretty much every base is gone within an hour and the Lebanese army is more useful to Hizb’allah when Israel isn’t destroying it’s useful equipment.

Thanks for your reply.

Don’t forget also that the Hezb’allah would have caches and dumps of all sorts of goodies scattered all over the shop. I’m sure we hit those too.

If you examine the footage and pictures, you can really see it’s a heavily damaged place. I’m certainly no expert, but some of the damage to bldgs in pics I saw looked like they had entry holes at odd angles in the facades. I mean all of what hit them is supposed to have come from above…

As far as the Lebanese army?

Well, that would just be insane. They’d be crushed and it’d also worsen Lebanon’s tenuous-at-best position… However, they might perhaps do it in the hope of triggering Syrian involvement?

The Leb Army is overwhelmingly shiite, IIRC…

86 Manker  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 8:47:39am replyquote

#70 cybermonk

Well heres the thing, a lot of Europeans are getting very disgrunteled with the mass muslim migration and population explosion.

I have met a women here in Haifa, whose from Europe (Not Jewish) and looks like she is going to move to Israel once she gets her pension.

The fact is that I think there will be a civil war in Europe rather than just a take over. It will take some incidents, but theres a good chance that some parts of Europes population will be pushed over the edge and start fighting agaisnt immigration or muslim rioting.

Actually it’s very likely you’ll see mass european immigration to south america, the US, and Israel as another scenario as to what you are stating.

87 cybermonk  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 8:51:02am replyquote

#70 Manker

Its possible that some Christians in Europe may need to flee, they would be welcome in Israel, however, the majority of those seeking refuge would be Jews.

88 Hooray for Captain Spaulding  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 8:51:30am replyquote

Farewell to the United Nations?

Is that a trick question?

How about putting the new UN building in Teheran?

All that nightlife should make these fuckers happy

89 zulubaby  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 8:52:31am replyquote
90 Fjordman  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 8:54:46am replyquote

#86: I’m participating at a symposium over at Frontpage Magazine regarding the situation in Europe, together with Bruce Bawer and Bat Ye’or, among others. This is my conclusion so far:

I just want to say two things. First: I do not believe there is such thing as a moderate Islam. I disagree with Storhaug in this regard. I can’t see any significant signs that a Reformation of Islam is happening, and I have serious doubts as to whether it is possible at all, from a theological point of view. Ayaan Hirsi Ali is an ex-Muslim, not a secular Muslim, whatever that is. We are fooling ourselves with talk about peaceful coexistence with Islam.

Second: Berlinski seems to argue that our problems lie less in any deliberate ideological project among certain political groups and more in a general loss of cultural confidence in Europe. This is, however, a false dichotomy. It is both.

I agree with Bat Ye’or that the rise of Eurabia is closely tied to the European Union. There is also little doubt in my mind that many Leftist intellectuals in our media and our Universities want to erase the foundations of Western civilization and replace them with something else.

It is true that these groups could never have been so successful in implementing this if there had been stronger popular resistance. There is indeed a loss of cultural confidence, sometimes bordering on active self-loathing, that has penetrated deep into the general populace, not just some elite groups. Europe’s faith in itself was severely wounded in the trenches of WW1, and perhaps mortally wounded in Auschwitz.

The most important task in the short to medium term is to weaken those elite groups who are most aggressive in attacking our civilization. This first of all means the EU, but also the censorship of our Politically Correct media. Eurabia can only be derailed by destroying the organization that created it in the first place: The European Union. The most likely outcome is that the EU, which is already a post-democratic organization, will become increasingly totalitarian until it falls apart.

I do, unfortunately, agree with Hedegaard that we have already passed the point of no return for serious conflicts caused by Muslim immigration. Anything we do now is damage limitation. A Multicultural society is only temporary. Sooner or later, we will return to a new mono-cultural society. This will happen either through the division of the previously coherent territory into new, mono-cultural enclaves or through the takeover by society as a whole of the most forceful and aggressive of these competing cultures.

The tectonic plates of global power are now shifting in ways they haven’t done for centuries. This is the retreat of the Western world order. Multiculturalism and the inability or unwillingness of Western nations to uphold their borders are viewed by Muslims as a signal that their ancient Western rival is weak and ripe for conquest. This is no doubt the background for the ongoing aggressive posture by the Iranian president, among others. Al-Qaeda strategists have earlier outlined a schedule for awakening the Islamic world and overthrowing the West, with a timeline stretching over the coming fifteen to twenty years. A world war of sorts with the Islamic world is already inevitable by now, no matter what we do. The only question is whether this will be a cold or a hot world war.

My personal view is that the Jihad riots in France in 2005 could be interpreted as the early stages of a civil war, one of several Eurabian civil wars to come. What will happen to the hundreds of French nuclear warheads? Will they be used to intimidate the rest of the West?

91 Ed Mahmoud abu al Qahool Martyr Brigades  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 8:55:11am replyquote

I stopped at Specs on Farm Road 1960 yesterday and picked up a bottle of Sabra choco-orange liqueur so I could help support the war against the Hezb’Allah terrorists and catch a buzz at the same time of some mellow tasting potent potables.

92 zulubaby  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 8:55:18am replyquote

Iran forces urged to prepare to hit Israel

Look at the name of the link — mideast_iran_revenge

“The Basij and Revolutionary Guards should prepare to get even with the Zionists and Americans,” Yahya Rahim-Safavi was quoted as telling Islamic militiamen by the conservative Fars news agency.

The Basij are volunteer Islamic militiamen.

“The timing of the this will be announced by the leader,” he added.

93 Fjordman  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 8:55:55am replyquote

Maybe future historians will dub this the Multicultural World War. I find this to be a more accurate term than “The Islamic World War” because what is causing this world war is Western cultural weakness more than Islamic strength. The wars in the Balkans in the 1990s will in hindsight be seen as a prelude to the Multicultural World War.

It could be similar to the division of India after WW2, with the creation of one or several Islamic “Pakistan” enclaves. All of Europe will not be lost, but some parts may be, and many others will be damaged by the fighting. Many of our cultural treasures will burn.

It is possible that those regions of Europe where the infidels are strong enough will copy the Benes Decrees from Czechoslovakia in 1946, when most of the so-called Sudeten Germans, some 3.5 million people, had shown themselves to be a dangerous fifth column without any loyalty to the state. The Czech government thus expelled them from its land. As Hugh Fitzgerald of Jihad Watch has demonstrated, there is a much better case for a Benes Decree for parts of Europe’s Muslim population now than there ever was for the Sudeten Germans.

The truth is that Europe has got itself into a bad fix, again, and will have some turbulent and painful decades ahead regardless of what we do at this point. The choice is between some pain where at least parts of Europe prevail and pain where Europe simply ceases to exist as a Western, cultural entity.

The most civilized thing we can do in order to save ourselves, but also to limit the loss of life among both Muslims and non-Muslims, is for Westerners and indeed infidels in general to implement a policy of containment of the Islamic world. This includes stopping Muslim immigration, but also by making our countries Islam-unfriendly, thus presenting the Muslims already here between the options of adapting to our societies or leaving if they desire sharia law. Even whispering about Jihad should be grounds for expulsion.

Since Islamic countries can use organizations such as the United Nations to influence Western freedom of speech and immigration policies, Westerners need to discredit and disengage from the UN as much as possible, at some point maybe withdraw from it completely. We cannot under any circumstances allow Islamic nations to influence our legislation.

Regaining our cultural confidence is a more complicated and longer term goal. It probably cannot be achieved until today’s version of Western Europe has collapsed. Western Europe is now a collection of several layers of different Utopias, Multiculturalism, welfarism and transnationalism, that will soon come crashing down.

However, just as Islam isn’t the cause of Europe’s weakness but rather a secondary infection, it is conceivable that the Islamic threat could have the unforeseen and ironic effect of saving Europe from herself. Europe will go through a turbulent period of painful, but necessary revival. Maybe Jihad will trigger a new Renaissance in the West. Europe will bleed but she won’t die. It remains to be seen whether this is wishful thinking or whether it will actually happen. In any case, it will take time to materialize.

It may sound unrealistic to talk about the collapse of the European Union or pulling out of the UN, but I believe things will rapidly get worse in the years ahead. A generation from now, things that will seem improbable or outright impossible now will have come to pass. We will see some of the largest changes in world politics since WW2, perhaps in centuries.

94 Thanos  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 8:56:54am replyquote

#70 cybermonk

Well heres the thing, a lot of Europeans are getting very disgrunteled with the mass muslim migration and population explosion.

I have met a women here in Haifa, whose from Europe (Not Jewish) and looks like she is going to move to Israel once she gets her pension.

The fact is that I think there will be a civil war in Europe rather than just a take over. It will take some incidents, but theres a good chance that some parts of Europes population will be pushed over the edge and start fighting agaisnt immigration or muslim rioting.

Actually it’s very likely you’ll see mass european immigration to south america, the US, and Israel as another scenario as to what you are stating.

I would bet for major social upheaval within the next 20 years in Europe, and a major war. Several factors combine to create this prediction, from demographics (immigration, and working citizen demographics) along with the fact that France and other countries have a sixth or more of their populations unemployed. Some dangerous new “ism” will take root, and then the war starts.

95 frankp_63  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 8:57:08am replyquote

I think there’s a legitimate need for an international entity, call it whatever you want, to functional as a global charity/humanitarian
organization. But it must be stripped of all political pretensions and military potential and its budget entirely voluntary.

The fatal flaw in the U.N. is the notion that tyrannical regimes, religious and otherwise, have an equal voice in a deliberative process that those same regimes would never dare allow their own citizens to participate in. It was tolerated in the past because critical mass lay in support of democracy. That’s no longer the case and those democracies should take up their marbles and go start a new club elsewhere.

96 Golden Jerusalem  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 9:00:27am replyquote

Posted at the very bottom of a page of world leaders’ reactions, we find this at our friends, the BBC:

(Directly below Assad’s laughable “state terrorism” quip)

IRANIAN FOREIGN MINISTRY SPOKESMAN HAMID REZA ASEFI

The Qana bombing is the outcome of [US Secretary State Condoleezza] Rice’s trip to the region. Some American officials should be put on trial for the crimes in Lebanon.

97 cbinflux  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 9:00:40am replyquote

OT
USMC sniper metes out swift death in Iraq
an excellent article on one of our men
[Link: news.yahoo.com…]

He was 5 when he first fired an M-16, his father holding him to brace against the recoil. At 17 he enlisted in the Marine Corps, spurred by the memory of 9/11. Now, 21-year-old Galen Wilson has 20 confirmed kills in four months in Iraq — and another 40 shots that probably killed insurgents. One afternoon the lance corporal downed a man hauling a grenade launcher five-and-a-half football fields away.
Wilson is the designated marksman in a company of Marines based in downtown Ramadi, watching over what Marines call the most dangerous neighborhood in the most dangerous city in the world.
Here, Sunni Arab insurgents are intent on toppling the local government protected by Marines.
Wilson, 5-foot-6 with a soft face, is married and has two children and speaks in a deep, steady monotone.
After two tours in Iraq, his commanders in the 3rd Battalion, 8th Regiment call him a particularly mature Marine, always collected and given to an occasional wry grin.
His composure is regularly tested. Swaths of central and southern Ramadi, 70 miles west of Baghdad, are dominated by insurgents who regularly attack the provincial government headquarters that Marines protect.
During a large-scale attack on Easter Sunday, Wilson says, he spotted six gunmen on a rooftop about 400 yards away. In about 8 seconds he squeezed off five rounds — hitting five gunmen in the head. The sixth man dived off a 3-story building just as Wilson got him in his sights, and counts as a probable death.
“You could tell he didn’t know where it was coming from. He just wanted to get away,” Wilson said. Later that day, he said, he killed another insurgent.
Wilson says his skill helps save American troops and Iraqi civilians.
“It doesn’t bother me. Obviously, me being a devout Catholic, it’s a conflict of interest. Then again, God supported David when he killed Goliath,” Wilson said. “I believe God supports what we do and I’ve never killed anyone who wasn’t carrying a weapon.”…

98 Manker  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 9:02:05am replyquote

#85 Golden Jerusalem 7/30/2006 10:47AM PDT

Thanks for your reply.

no prob

Don’t forget also that the Hezb’allah would have caches and dumps of all sorts of goodies scattered all over the shop. I’m sure we hit those too.

O’yea

If you examine the footage and pictures, you can really see it’s a heavily damaged place. I’m certainly no expert, but some of the damage to bldgs in pics I saw looked like they had entry holes at odd angles in the facades. I mean all of what hit them is supposed to have come from above…

Now that I think about it you are right. The buildings are still (loosely) somewhat standing. When the MSM showed about the destruction of a building Tyre there was literally nothing left, if it was a direct hit nothing really would have been salvagable. The fact is that most of the damage is too the lower floors.
As far as the Lebanese army?

Well, that would just be insane. They’d be crushed and it’d also worsen Lebanon’s tenuous-at-best position… However, they might perhaps do it in the hope of triggering Syrian involvement?

They could, and I think syria would be like “Yes let the Israeli’s kick your butts so we can have an easy time absorbing you into greater syria, then assad twirls his mustache, shines his monacle, and laughs maniacally”

Syria in my opinion would only come in to save Hizb’allah on Irans command.

The Leb Army is overwhelmingly shiite, IIRC…

The Leb army is divided by units of religion. So most of the brigades or battalions are most likely Shiite.

99 christheprofessor  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 9:03:33am replyquote
100 Golden Jerusalem  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 9:04:35am replyquote

Kofi on live from the criminal syndicate (the UN, duh)

101 Thanos  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 9:08:36am replyquote

Heads up for Noon Tuesday:

Chief Rabbi Yona Metzger has initiated a website for worldwide prayers on behalf of the wounded, abducted and fighting Israeli soldiers. Many acts of kindness are being done on their behalf as well.
On Rabbi Metzger’s site, www.tfila.org.il, Jews from all over the world can sign up and agree to take part in a joint prayer service scheduled for this Tuesday night at 7 PM (12 noon New York time). At the same time, the anniversary memorial gathering for Gush Katif will also be convening at the Western Wall, for a prayer service on behalf of the country, its soldiers and the citizens on the front.

The prayers will be on behalf of the “well-being of our soldiers and their success, the recovery of the wounded, and the safe return of the captives to the loving arms of their families.”

Those who cannot commit themselves to pray at a specific time can recite the prayer at any other time, as well as the twice-daily Shma (Hear O Israel) prayer (Deut. 6, 5-9)

102 RedPepper  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 9:08:47am replyquote

Fjordman, I share your alarm about the future of Europe. I especially fear that the current situation may give rise to a new “ism” by way of response. Do you see that as a real possibility ?

103 karmic_inquisitor  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 9:10:33am replyquote

#86 Manker –

I have some friends from France who just visited us. Hadn’t seen them in 8 years. Back then they were very proud French people who saw the birth of the EU as the birth of a great new age.

After dinner and some drinks, they told me the real purpose of the visit – they have 3 sons, the oldest is 16 and the youngest 9. They want their sons educated in the US at US universities with solid Engineering programs. They then expect their sons to become American citizens.

Their reason? Islam. “The Warrior Religion” is what they are calling it, and they see that there is no future for Europe other than ultimate Sharia. They and their friends will vote LePen in the next election, but they say it is an act of desperation. They feel their elites are handing their civilization to Islamists in the name of multiculturalism. One thing they said thet struck me “Chirac is worse that Mitterand! He is the bigger socialist and the least French!”

104 sms111  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 9:11:04am replyquote

Slight OT:

In a search on Google news aka MSM-world, there are thousands of stories on the “QANA massacre”

Precious few on Israeli deaths from Hezbo missiles, either of Israeli Jews, Christians or Moslems

How, exactly, does the MSM in 2006 differ from the German press of, say, 1936?

105 solomonpanting  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 9:12:01am replyquote

“Waaa. Nobody listens to me. Waaa.”

“I am deeply dismayed that my earlier calls for an immediate cessation of hostilities were not heeded,” Annan said. “I repeat this call once again from this chamber and I appeal to the council to do likewise.”

106 Doss  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 9:12:04am replyquote

#69 Fjordman

Yes, I wrote that piece.

It’s the same in Norway. I believe this is the first time in human history that the leaders of a nation as part of a deliberate government policy are wiping our their own people, present this as an act of tolerance and say that everybody who disagrees is a “racist.”

I’ve been pondering about the cause of this for several years. Neither Norway nor Sweden have any colonial history, so that’s not it. The only possible explanation I can find for this is that we are white.

D’oh – didn’t realize you wrote that. If you haven’t already, you should read David Horowitz’s Hating Whitey.

107 goodbye_natalie  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 9:12:04am replyquote

Fjordman,

Nice work! I think soon the U.N. as we know it will disband into a more “tribal” coalition. And as usual, the U.S. will end up thinking we need to belong somewhere. Personally, I think we need to look out for our own but that will never happen.

It would sure chap the ass of the rest of the world were we to band up with Israel, possibly Australia, Britain, Japan, Taiwan, Mexico, and a few small countries.

Nothing would tickle me more to shove it up the arse of the rest of the middle east, Russia, China, the rest of the commies, socialists, progressives, tyrannical dictators, and other general abject failures.

As a deal we could offer the “progressive left” as a love offering to their new commune.

108 Thanos  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 9:13:14am replyquote

#104

IDF is showing captured footage of rockets being driven in and stored in homes of Qana (Kana) village, over 150 rockets were fired from there over the past 20 days per Jerusalem Post, and more here at Arutz Sheva.

Some 150 rockets were fired from the Lebanese village of Qana over the past 20 days, Air Force Chief of Staff Brig.-Gen. Amir Eshel said on Sunday evening. Speaking to reporters, Eshel added that Hizbullah rocket launchers were hidden in civilian buildings in the village, showing a video footage of rocket launchers being driven into the village following launches.

109 Golden Jerusalem  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 9:14:02am replyquote

Now that I think about it you are right. The buildings are still (loosely) somewhat standing. When the MSM showed about the destruction of a building Tyre there was literally nothing left, if it was a direct hit nothing really would have been salvagable. The fact is that most of the damage is too the lower floors.

OTOH, that place prolly took more than a few 155 mm hits from our guys…

Still, logic dictates that if we know (a) that Hezb’allah would have (had) arms caches scattered all over K.K., then it must follow that (b) we scored hits on those, and (c) whatever was stored there, went the f*ck up, you know?

The Leb army is divided by units of religion. So most of the brigades or battalions are most likely Shiite.

Let’s not kid ourselves. The Lebanese army was organized during the years of Syrian occupation…

It’s another proxy. I’ve seen figures that say the army is over 60% shiite.

110 goodbye_natalie  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 9:14:55am replyquote

#97 cbinflux,

One afternoon the lance corporal downed a man hauling a grenade launcher five-and-a-half football fields away.

WOW! How’d you like to get in a gunfight with somebody like that? I’d be making like a Frenchman and dropping the rifle, waving the white flag.

111 ted  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 9:15:49am replyquote

Plan for UN:

1- Monday 8AM Agents from U.S. Marshal Service, FBI,SWAT, DEA, Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, CIA, etc., surround building arrest diplomats from outlaw states and sponsors of terrorism. Detain in Federal Immigration prison facilities and begin processing for Gitmo.

2-Firm of Guiliani & Partners process all others which have connections to fraud, embezzlement, RICO, drug usage and dealing, spying, prostituition, child molestation, etc.

3Kofi Annan arrested charged with genocide, crimes against humanity, sent to Gitmo.

4-Building padlocked, condemned.

5-Laozo family hired for controlled implosion and demolition of site.

5-Wealthy Jewish philanthropist buys site and donates it to Yeshiva University

6-Donald Trump builds “Trump Yeshiva”

7-Plaque installed for UN on dogrun behind complex.

112 cbinflux  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 9:17:42am replyquote

No special treatment… I believe… I believe…
[Link: www.nypost.com…]
KATIE PULLS STRINGS IN COCKPIT

KATIE Couric had fellow passengers aboard a New York-bound jet on the warpath this week when, as their plane was about to taxi to the runway, she got out of her seat and begged the pilot to allow one of her late-arriving producers to board.
“It was like, ‘Who the hell does she think she is?’ ” fumed one passenger who observed Couric’s diva-like antics. “If you or I attempted something like this, we’d be cooling our heels at Guantanamo.”
The witness told Page Six that attendants on Wednesday’s 6:30 p.m. Delta Shuttle flight out of Washington, D.C., had already closed the door and passengers were buckled in, when the soon-to-be CBS News anchor raced up the aisle with a cellphone to her ear and told an attendant she had to speak to the pilot right away. Couric was then allowed into the cockpit and convinced the pilot to delay the flight and reopen the door for her producer, Nicola Hewitt.
“One flight attendant rolled her eyes and told me, ‘This is only the second time I’ve ever seen this happen – the other time was a sick passenger,’ ” the witness said.
A spokesman for Couric confirmed the perky newsgal intervened, but insisted, “Katie only spoke to the pilot after receiving permission from the flight attendant.” He said Hewitt had been delayed from getting on the shuttle behind Couric because of an extended security check. Then, trying to put a positive spin on the tale of Couric’s chutzpah, the flack added that another late passenger who was also about to be stranded was also able to make the flight.
Delta spokesman Anthony Black said Couric got no special treatment. “The airlines get unusual situations that happen every day, and the crew is trained to make decisions on a case-by-case basis,” he said.
Black added that when Couric made her request, the pilot determined that favorable tailwinds would not delay the hourlong flight – and even with the brief delay taking off, the flight arrived at La Guardia 10 minutes ahead of schedule.
Still, our witness – a high-powered public-relations executive who rides the shuttle regularly – said he and fellow passengers were not impressed at the behavior of TV’s top news personality, who got a whopping $60 million contract to jump from NBC’s “Today” show to CBS.
“Using your celebrity in the post-9/11 age to stop a flight is diabolical,” he raged.

/let her buy her own plane(s). Any of us would have been put in flex-cuffs.

113 Golden Jerusalem  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 9:18:08am replyquote

#97 cbinflux:

Now, 21-year-old Galen Wilson has 20 confirmed kills in four months in Iraq — and another 40 shots that probably killed insurgents. One afternoon the lance corporal downed a man hauling a grenade launcher five-and-a-half football fields away.

I’d gladly swap all the moonbats in the land(s) for a handful more men of this guy’s caliber 😛

114 Fjordman  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 9:19:35am replyquote

#102: Yes, I do. Europe has de facto already ceased being a democratic entity.

In Western Europe in particular hardly any of the necessary preconditions for a democracy are currently present. We are no longer citizens, we have become subjects, without genuine influence over the future of our countries and mere spectators to destinies others have chosen for us. We are citizens if we have genuine influence over what our tax money is spent on. We are subjects if we just pay taxes and somebody else decides what to do with this money, without consulting us on major issues. We are funding our own colonization, and our so-called leaders stab us in the back every chance they get.

The result could well become a popular explosion, as described here:

The Clash of Fascisms

The ruthless nationalism of the past has been subdued and replaced with anemic multiculturalism and naïve pacifism. It won’t last. The pendulum will swing back. If it appears as if the mainstream authorities are incapable of taking action to stop the ongoing Islamic invasion of the continent, faith in the entire democratic system could break down. Europe right now has all the ingredients needed for the rise of something akin to a new Nazi movement. It is an extremely dangerous mix of suppressed nationalism, high unemployment and failed economies, democratic detachment and a widespread sense of being betrayed by the ruling elites. Tens of
millions of immigrants pour into Europe, changing the face of the continent forever without any real debate about the issue. People feel like strangers in their own cities, but are being silenced as “racists” if they object to this.

There is a widespread feeling that Europe is descending into chaos, and that the governments are unwilling or incapable of stopping this. If this situation continues, some people will cry out for a Strong Man to “cleanse Europe of foreigners” and restore its honour and wounded pride. And He will step forward. There is never any shortage of self-proclaimed Strong Men once you call for them. By then, you won’t have a “Clash of Civilizations” in Europe, but rather a Clash of Fascisms: Euro-Fascism vs. Islamo-Fascism. Ayaan Hirsi Ali fears that if we don’t take effective measures, now, ”the Netherlands could be torn between two extreme rights”: an Islamic one and a non-Islamic one.” She’s right. MP Geert Wilders in Holland has proposed a moratorium on all non-Western immigration to the Netherlands for some years. Perhaps that is an approach that should be adopted by other European nations, too. Major cities across the continent are now powder kegs of ethnic and religious tensions, built up after decades of failed immigration policies and an absence of a genuine debate. Common sense says that when you have a powder keg waiting to explode, adding even more powder is not the smartest thing to do.

115 Geepers  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 9:20:15am replyquote

Recently there’s been some discussion of the word “islamofascist” and its use.

For what its worth, using that word at kos will get you “troll rated” for using a “racist epithet”.

Look out GW.

116 bruxellesblog  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 9:21:23am replyquote

#3 just another infidel

I would like to see the U.N. move to Brussels or some other faraway place

For purely selfish reasons, I must admit this would piss me off a bit. While it would raise my property value, it would make eating out and trying at least to be somewhat sociable difficult at best…the EU crowd of legislato-borgs is plenty numerous without adding a bunch of clepto-tax-corruption fools to the mix in my hood.

Why don’t we choose, say, Berlin? They are 90% moon bat anyway, and Lord knows they need the cash-flow..

Paris would be nice too. Heck, there are so many jihadis there anyway, nobody would notice.

117 American Infidel[deleted]  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 9:21:40am
118 cbinflux  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 9:24:14am replyquote

#110 g_n
I hope that he convinces many, many more to test their crash turbans on the pavement from three stories up. Just after they’ve abluted in their diapers.

119 TotallySirius  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 9:26:47am replyquote

#115 Geepers

I would consider a “troll rating” at Kos as a badge of honor.

I stop in there to just check the “winds”,I would never register there for fear that I’d never get that smell out of my computer.

120 Poitiers-Lepanto  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 9:27:06am replyquote

#103 Karmic_Inquisitor

What you report is very very sad.
And for me personally it’s sadder than I can express.

“La France Eternelle” is gone…
/in loving memory of C.(M.H.A.)B.F. She rests in Peace in the Light of the Infinite, may She pray for us.

121 goodbye_natalie  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 9:27:37am replyquote

#115 Geepers,

For what its worth, using that word at kos will get you “troll rated” for using a “racist epithet”.

What’s the descriptor goat humping, head chopping, stone aged, abject failures worth?

122 bruxellesblog  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 9:27:38am replyquote

Ibmkeyboard

A religion cannot be destroyed. Islam is here till the end of time. And out of 1.2 billion Muslims only 10-15 percent is Islamsick

Hmmm…a couple points to quibble.

1)Marxism was a religion, as was Shinto and Nazism. I disagree, you can beat a religion, but it gets messy.

2) When you identify the 85% Islamists who are peaceful, send me a telegram will ya? For such a big majority, they sure can hide pretty well, don’t ya think?

123 slotgun  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 9:28:43am replyquote

Jonah Goldberg nailed this long ago: Time for a League of Democracies. Junk that East River vermin trap and demonstrate to those knuckleheads that if they want to take part in global affairs as adults, they need to put down the rocket launchers, suicide vests and their favorite head-lopping knives. If, that point, they’re willing to climb down from their high chairs without further kicking and screaming, and join the party as adults, we can consider it.

More likely, though, it would set up the final confrontation between the League of Democracies and what the UN will morph into, the United Nations of Islam. Wonder how many on their side will be nuclear by THAT time.

124 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 9:29:51am
125 cbinflux  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 9:30:19am replyquote

#113 gj
I was fortunate to vacation with a couple of these men a couple of weeks ago in OBX. One of them earned the nic Hellfire from his colleagues. He’s now in Army OCS > Apache pilot training.
Very similar in background to Galen Wilson. Just an ‘under-privileged kid’ from Georgia.
Our battlefields are in much better hands than our halls of congress/justice.

126 ibmkeyboard  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 9:30:25am replyquote

Religions not being destroyed?

I know, I know,
I should have said modern world religions,
I forgot about the Satan worshipers of Bengalie.

127 karmic_inquisitor  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 9:35:40am replyquote

#120 Poitiers-Lepanto

I was stunned when I heard it. I didn’t even bring the subject up – we were talking about the wolrd cup and the Stade de France (which is in a Muslim suburb) when the conversation turned to Islam. It blew me away because they didn’t know my views before going into the subject.

These are very decent people and very well educated, but technical in their professions. They also seemed deeply unhappy – unreal when you think of Frenchies “en Vacance”.

Anyway, we put up an open offer to host their sons as they work at getting into schools here. They accepted the offer and said they would reciprocate (we also have 3 boys), but doubt we would be “insane” enough to take them up on it. “Perhaps your sons can see some of our empty Cathedrals while they are still standing” was one remark I remember.

128 TotallySirius  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 9:35:46am replyquote

Gee,the old leftist trick of solving a problem by changing the name.

Next the moonbats will solve the terrorism problem by changing the name to freedom fighters…waddya mean they already did that?

129 Poitiers-Lepanto  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 9:35:47am replyquote

#124 Song_adn_Dance_Man

the proposal states that “defamation of religions and prophets is inconsistent with the right to freedom of expression.”

I am happy that 57 muslim government agree with my project of a giant Pagan temple in Mecca. I think we will offer porn shows and regularly scheduled “get-drunk-and-see-the-Light” sessions.
I was a little worried that they could limit my Freedom of expression, but I am glad they changed their minds.

130 ibmkeyboard  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 9:36:32am replyquote

#119 TotallySirius

#115 Geepers

I stop in there to just check the “winds”,I would never register there for fear that I’d never get that smell out of my computer.

lo

/ Be hard to get that smell off your mouses little balls also.

131 American Infidel[deleted]  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 9:37:42am
132 TotallySirius  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 9:39:31am replyquote

#126 IBM

Everything was “modern” at some point in time.

133 W-lover  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 9:41:13am replyquote

Recently there’s been some discussion of the word “islamofascist” and its use.

Banned from the EU dictionary…

I try to use it daily.

134 TotallySirius  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 9:42:14am replyquote

#130 IBM

That’s why I switched to an optical mouse,no little mouse balls to clean.

LOL

135 storagemanager  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 9:43:35am replyquote

looks like Iran is gona get its Chaos.

136 goodbye_natalie  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 9:44:25am replyquote

A rolling mouse ball gathers no dust…you pigs clean your table top off!

137 BenZacharia  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 9:45:03am replyquote

We’ve, LGF that is, have ciaospirit (The Lion Hearted), AG (I’ll fact check your RoPMA), Fjordman (Successor to Ayn Rand with out the wierods) & TKF (Undersecretary of Punctuation)

The WH has Groverling Norquisling, even with Tony Snow we can still kick their asses. (that is meant in a friendly competitive way)

138 Poitiers-Lepanto  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 9:45:27am replyquote

#127 Karmic_Inquisitor

Unbelievable.
I know, and I can say without any malice,how PROUD French people are of their Country (mainly because of the FAR past history). They would never say anything bad about France in front of a “stranger”.It must have been astonishing.
And they must consider you a true Friend.

I personally thank you for offering them your help.
Let’s say I had Relatives from France, so you touched my Family too, in a way.

AND ABSOLUTELY don’t send your Sons there, not even for a vacation: in the last few months I have heard terrible stories from people I know who went to Spain and to France. It’s frigging dangerous if someone in the streets understands you are American.

/who would have frigging thought we would have seen this day ?
I am so old, I feel so old.
May the Infinite Being help us all.

139 Abu Maven  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 9:45:33am replyquote

Fox News reports that armed gunmen have stormed the UN building in Gaza.

140 storagemanager  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 9:45:50am replyquote

Gunmen storm U.N. compound in Gaza not just rock throwers.

141 Doss  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 9:46:03am replyquote

OT: Latest Steyn column.

142 W-lover  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 9:47:03am replyquote

LGF reporting Fox news reports!

143 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 9:48:08am
144 Doss  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 9:49:06am replyquote

#134 Totally Sirius

That’s why I switched to an optical mouse,no little mouse balls to clean.

Stock up on batteries. I have to change them about every four or five months.

145 Geepers  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 9:50:09am replyquote

TotallySirius (#119),

They are all for speaking power to truth, right up to the point when you disagree that Israel isn’t an apartheid state or that Hezbollah might be in any way culpable.

146 ibmkeyboard  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 9:50:16am replyquote

Zulubaby,
that is amazing. Most of the Muslim women I see pictured have green holes in their teeth.

maybe that is the reason for the burka black fishnet window.

/You see,
Israel is even helping these people develop strong teeth.

Image: PalestinianWomenTeeth–large-msg-115428040863.jpg

147 Doss  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 9:50:29am replyquote

#138 Poitiers-Lepanto

AND ABSOLUTELY don’t send your Sons there, not even for a vacation: in the last few months I have heard terrible stories from people I know who went to Spain and to France. It’s frigging dangerous if someone in the streets understands you are American.

Any stories you can tell here?

148 TotallySirius  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 9:51:02am replyquote

#139,#140

I wonder how the MSM/leftists/moonbats will spin this.

“Peaceful protesters discuss their complaints with the UN office in Gaza”?

Bwa hahahahahahaha

149 Manker  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 9:51:05am replyquote

#103 karmic_inquisitor

Well the thing is that the main reason that the EU became this is also because Europeans have just stopped having kids. Your friend is quite literally an oddity by having 3 kids.

The creation of Eurabia wouldn’t even be here had Europeans had more kids because then immigration would have been more selective.

#109 Golden Jerusalem

It wouldn’t be shocking that arms caches were what it set off the secondary explosions.

Leb army has already been found out helping Hizb’allah so I’m not really sure why we aren’t destroying it in the process.

150 zulubaby  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 9:51:59am replyquote

Please help! I keep getting the blue screen of death and I think it’s something to do with IE because I keep getting “send error report” messages. I restarted in safe mode but if I restart in normal mode, will is actually start? Is this a virus?

151 anthean  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 9:52:16am replyquote

#140

Gunmen storm U.N. compound in Gaza not just rock throwers.

The evil ones destroy each other.

152 Abu Maven  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 9:52:34am replyquote

138 Poiters,

Really? I was thinking of visiting Paris soon, as I don’t think it will continue to be the “Paris” of all for much longer.

153 Abu Maven  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 9:54:05am replyquote

“Paris of old”, I meant.

154 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 9:54:40am
155 BenZacharia  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 9:54:41am replyquote

144 Doss

optical not IR

156 zulubaby  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 9:55:03am replyquote

Poitiers-Lepanto,

It’s frigging dangerous if someone in the streets understands you are American.

Further evidence that America is the new Jew.

157 TotallySirius  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 9:55:14am replyquote

I visited Paris in 1970..it was a dirty smelly place then too.

158 froghat  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 9:55:33am replyquote

Iran forces urged to prepare to hit Israel

TEHRAN (Reuters) – Iran’s hardline forces should get ready to take revenge on Israel and the United States for the offensive on Lebanon, the head of the Revolutionary Guards was quoted as saying on Sunday

[Link: news.yahoo.com…]

159 Manker  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 9:55:40am replyquote

#140 storagemanager 7/30/2006 11:45AM PDT

Gunmen storm U.N. compound in Gaza not just rock throwers.

I’ve got a great idea!

All Israeli lizards should meet up at the nearest UN compound and storm it aswell.

I don’t want to be left out of the latest trends! Who wants in?

160 zulubaby  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 9:56:28am replyquote

song_and_dance_man, I have no idea what that is 🙂

161 Fjordman  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 9:56:30am replyquote

#138: Thai citizens were recently warned against travelling to France. Stop for a minute to think about the implications of this. Thailand is usually considered a developing country, whereas France has traditionally been a developed, industrialized country. And now visitors from developing countries are complaining about…the lack of public law and order. What this means is that mass immigration is erasing the differences between developing and develped nations, with Western nations becoming integrated into the Third World.

Welcome to Third World Europe.

[Link: www.brusselsjournal.com…]

Foreign Ministry has cautioned Thai citizens to consider postponing or cancelling travelling to France particularly this period because of the threat of crime. […]The ministry has earlier suggested that Thais avoid traveling alone, stay clear of isolated places and pay particular attention to passing motorbikes – the vehicle of choice for French thieves.

162 W-lover  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 9:56:58am replyquote

Al Gore: What do you think it will take to reverse the effects of global climate change?

The first thing I’d do Al, is make you shut your mouth. You emit too much CO2.

163 Dave the…..  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 9:58:29am replyquote

Hey Dubs…

164 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 9:58:59am
165 W-lover  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 9:59:24am replyquote

Hey Dave!

166 jimmytheclaw  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 10:00:30am replyquote

watching un offices in gaza being attacked.

167 orangutan  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 10:02:17am replyquote

WOW…this was published in Europe?

Folks, that is serious progress. Looks like a few folks over there might finally be waking up, after Pim and all. What is the Brussels Journal, anyway?

168 m  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 10:02:28am replyquote

#162 W-lover

The first thing I’d do Al, is make you shut your mouth. You emit too much CO2.

First step to a better world!

169 RedPepper  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 10:02:57am replyquote

#161 … while Chirac delivers pompous speeches about Israel …

Physician, heal thyself!

170 TotallySirius  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 10:03:15am replyquote

#162 W-luv

The first thing I would do is make damned sure that global warming is real,that it is caused by humans and whether or not it is actually harmful before undertaking any remedial actions.

But that never stopped a self-righteous moonbat.

171 bruxellesblog  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 10:03:26am replyquote

#166 jimmytheclaw
watching un offices in gaza being attacked.

This makes me happier than the Twins sweeping the White Sox. I’m so moved, two UN offices trashed in one day, it is just like Xmas and Santa came around early…

(said while whiping tears away)

172 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 10:04:17am
173 Manker  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 10:06:15am replyquote

Hey Golden Jerusalem,

More proof your right

IDF: Qana building fell hours after strike

IDF continuing to check difficult incident at Qana village, and attempting to account for strange gap between time of the strike on the building – midnight – and eight in the morning, when the building collapsed

But this really doesn’t matter anymore. Much like Jenin the media jumped and forced it into the ‘truth’.

174 zulubaby  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 10:07:00am replyquote

song_and_dance_man, thanks for trying! I called this computer guy I know but his mobile is turned off 😦 I’m trying to figure it out on my own. Feh.

175 alkmyst  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 10:07:16am replyquote

Golden Jerusalem

Re: K.K. or Q.Q. or however ya wanna spell it…

IDF May Not Have Caused Kana Deaths
20:50 Jul 30, ’06 / 5 Av 5766

Senior IDF officers told reporters a short time ago that there is a contradiction in the timing of the bombing of the village of Kana and reports of the explosion that killed more than 50 civilians and set off world-wide condemnation of Israel. Air Force Commander Amir Eshel left open the possibility that Hizbullah terrorists blew up the building or that an unknown cause set off explosives which were stored in the structure.

He explained that recorded information shows that Israeli Air Force planes bombed the building between midnight and 1 a.m. and that the next attack at 7:30 a.m. was up to 500 yards away. He said reports of the killing of civilians came around 8 a.m. “It is not clear what happened” between 1 a.m. and 8 a.m., he said.

176 Poitiers-Lepanto  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 10:07:23am replyquote

#147 Doss

One story that doesn’t identify me is

(could have been the beginning of summer in 2005))a school trip to Spain. All fun and happiness.
Two of the kids walk a little away from the group, they are talking.
Both suddenly punched from the back, then punched again and again. Teeth broken, noses broken…

The aggressors were not Spanish, nor white, nor Christian. Who do you think they were ?
And not arrested too, they fled.

And in Paris we all know about the open season of white-hunt during the riots of the “youths”. I have read the French Resistance blogs for weeks and the stories were beyond the darkest imagination…

177 ibmkeyboard  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 10:07:29am replyquote

W-Lover,

Best Answer – Chosen by Asker

The problem of global warming is the most serious threat this country – and the world at large – has ever faced. This problem goes beyond petty differences, problems of economy, social issues, even beyond international conflicts and the war on terrorism. We are talking about the survival of multiple species on Earth, including the human race.

Yeah,
I would much rather have my head chopped off,
than to face a Polar Bear that had to eat chopped liver all winter.

/I am afraid this Global Warming will cause Al Gore to be a shoo-in for president.
Or he might get Howard Deans old job,
Democrat exit poll taker.

178 storagemanager  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 10:07:43am replyquote

Mahmoud your chaos is getting bigger…soon Syria and Iran will join in.

179 Geepers  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 10:08:00am replyquote

Doss (#147),

Here’s one from LGFer Buckeye Abroad who lives in Germany and travels extensively for his work:

Travel Warning: Don’t speak American english on the streets of Barcelona.

Its pushing daylight here on my end so I’ll make this short. I visited an Irish pub here in Barcelona and met up with an Irish couple, want to another club and ended up loosing them inside. Waiting in the cue for the taxi, I made the mistake of speaking Ohio mid-west english. Was set upon by 6 spanish youth without understanding a word they said. All I understood was “Americano” & “George Bush”.. got suckered punch by a pair of them by jumped up and dropped one of them. Fought and retreated down the street nailing two more, but got my glasses knocked off in the process [I’m blind as a bat without them]. I was able to knock down 3, but was corned on the street. They picked up bricks, bottles, and pieces of wood to nail me with. I threw my arms out and yelled “throw”. The talked, dropped their items and walked away. Fifty people on the street and no one lifted a finger. Some guy walked up and handed me my glasses and I told him “Gracius Amigo” [my limited spanish].

Welcome to Eur-abia. Its in full bloom here.

He continued:

Its time for me to go home.

I got cuts all over my right fist, and parts of my face, where it connected… thank G-d I am not interviewing anyone today.

180 Nordish12  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 10:08:35am replyquote

Phew … done the third photoshoot for the weekend … I present to you:

Voices of Lebanon and Palestine rally.

Watch out for plenty of Neturei Karta, Hezbollah flags & talk of Intifada.

181 cbinflux  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 10:08:45am replyquote

#141 doss
Thanks. The take-home message:

Our enemies understand “why we fight” and where the fight is. They know that in the greater scheme of things the mosques of Jakarta and Amsterdam and Toronto and Dearborn are more important territory than the Sunni Triangle. The U.S. military is the best-equipped and best-trained in the world. But it’s not enough, it never has been and it never will be.

182 W-lover  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 10:09:00am replyquote

170 TS-

Agreed. Moonbats and facts are like oil & vinegar.

But I couldn’t resist a dig at AlBore.

183 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 10:09:05am
184 alkmyst  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 10:09:37am replyquote

#159 Manker 7/30/2006 11:55AM PDT

All Israeli lizards should meet up at the nearest UN compound and storm it aswell.

I don’t want to be left out of the latest trends! Who wants in?

That sounds like a hella good time…

185 brickthruplateglasswindow  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 10:10:07am replyquote

#139 abu maven

#140 storagemanager

I wonder if these “compounds” have weapons lockers, munitions caches, or communications equipment?

I can’t imagine them being ransacked for their swanky interior decor.

186 zulubaby  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 10:10:23am replyquote

Geepers, my G-d. That happened now?

187 Fjordman  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 10:10:27am replyquote

WOW…this was published in Europe?

Yes, this was published in Europe, but it was published under a pseudonym. Remember that. If Fjordman actually wrote under my real name, I would be harassed both by anti-racists and legal authorities as well as receiving death threats from Muslims. There’s a reason why I stay anonymous and prefer to engage with websites in the USA…

The brave person here is Paul Belien, editor of the Brussels Journal who is publishing this under his real name. Give him credit and support. It is difficult to do this in Europe these days, and he has received the predictable harassment from the authorities in Belgium, also seat of the Eurabian Union.

188 Poitiers-Lepanto  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 10:10:36am replyquote

#156 Zulubaby

Further evidence that America is the new Jew.

If only ALL the Americans understood that, we would be able to strike back at the caliphascist imperialists with 100 times more force !

189 earth56  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 10:11:14am replyquote

I also work for the UN but they don’t pay me

I OBSERVE baseball games just like they observe in Lebanon and Darfur

190 TotallySirius  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 10:11:47am replyquote

#172 s_a_d

zulubaby

If its an XP system,try “system restore”,go back to a date before the problem started.

Click “start”

click “all programs”

click “accessories”

click “system tools”

click “system restore”

follow instructions

191 DP111  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 10:12:59am replyquote

This war as we know, is costing us a lot in resources. In addition, UN and EU Human rights legislation, which we honour, has required us to accept millions of people, who carry with them an ideology that is permanently hostile to Western norms. This has led to the loss of internal peace within the nations of the West. Even in the dark days of the WWs or the Cold War, such a loss of internal peace did not occur.

The loss of internal peace has ramifications. It slowly dissolves the glue that holds a nation together, and this leads to economic and social impoverishment.

The ones that will gain from this impoverishment are the purveyors of the Jihad, as well nations such as Japan and China. The Jihad is going to carry on and even get worse as Muslim populations increase in the West, and at the same time we will be unable to withstand the challenge from nations such as Japan and China, who will mantain their national homogeneity.

192 zulubaby  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 10:14:42am replyquote

Fjordman, much respect to you. Really.

Poitiers-Lepanto, if anyone has any doubt that what I say is true, read Geepers’ post! (#179)

TotallySirius, this one is Windows 2000. Don’t even ask. The other computer crashed too. My brother is going to tell me it’s my fault …

193 goodbye_natalie  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 10:15:00am replyquote

#150 Zulu,

If it is XP, run it in Safe Mode for awhile (F8 will restarting). You’ll receive a choice of still running your connection to the internet. You might need to change your display settings temporarily.

If you still get the blue screen, you got a hardware problem. If you don’t it’s your software. Narrow it down to that first and we can go from there.

194 W-lover  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 10:15:08am replyquote

ibm-

Best Answer – Chosen by Asker

The problem of global warming is the most serious threat this country – and the world at large – has ever faced. This problem goes beyond petty differences, problems of economy, social issues, even beyond international conflicts and the war on terrorism. We are talking about the survival of multiple species on Earth, including the human race.

Yeah Al, cuz those NoKo nukes won’t do a number on the planet.

195 storagemanager  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 10:16:07am replyquote

Iran’s Mobilized Forces Summoned to Settle Accounts with Israel, US

TEHRAN (Fars News Agency)- Commander-in-chief of the Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps (IRGC) called on the Iranian mobilized (Baseeji) and IRGC forces to be prepared to settle accounts with the Zionists and Americans.

Speaking at an opening ceremony of Baseej Summoning Network, Major General Seyed Yahya Rahim Safavi prayed God to bring the world Muslims into action in order to demolish the United States, Israel and their affiliates.

He posed the question as to what the duty of Muslims could be in the face of the 60 years of mass killings and other criminal acts by Israel and the United States and Britain’s non-stop supports for the Zionist regime, and further expressed the hope that Muslim Ulema (religious scientists, leaders, theologians and jurisprudents) clarify the duty of the world Muslims against Israel.

[Link: english.farsnews.com…]

196 cbinflux  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 10:16:10am replyquote

#173 manker

Now you know as well as I that it’s W and the Joos that are bldg-splosion experts. Probably the same group that rigged the WT Towers and especially WT7!

I’ll bet all of the Hollyweirod stars and professors will be all over this on as well — NOT!

/God save us from konspiracy kooks

197 ibmkeyboard  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 10:16:59am replyquote

#156 zulubaby Poitiers-Lepanto,

It’s frigging dangerous if someone in the streets understands you are American.

Further evidence that America is the new Jew.

Wait a min.

Zulubaby,
do I have to be circumcised?

I don’t mind drinking at the one of those Bar Mischiefs,
But somebody starts bending me over with a Jewish looking knife and I goanna run.

198 Geepers  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 10:18:50am replyquote

zulubaby (#186),

It was last fall.

199 DP111  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 10:19:10am replyquote

Fjordman

A British blog asks the question

What I want to know is this, why has an outcry such as this NOT happened regarding the millions of Muslims that are imported into this country and then proclaim its destruction plus making demands for thier cultural needs to be met at the cost of the UK. culture.

[Link: uppompeii.blogspot.com…]

200 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 10:20:05am
201 Fjordman  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 10:20:45am replyquote

Hello, DP111. Yes, China will benefit greatly from this, will play both sides against the middle as the West wins, but is greatly reduced in strength through the efforts. We will “celebrate diversity” through immigration until the internal coherence of the West falls apart. The days of Western civilization being the most powerful one are probably over already, this is about survival, not hegemony. Much of global economic power will shift to East Asia. And they don’t even have to lift a finger to achieve this, they can just watch the West, the most powerful civilization in human history, tear itself apart with a little help from our Muslim friends.

The Chinese must be quite happy.

202 W-lover  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 10:20:58am replyquote

179 Geepers-

More proof that Americans should keep their travel dollars at home.

Lots to see right here.

203 RedPepper  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 10:21:35am replyquote

Fjordman: thank you.

204 Doss  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 10:21:36am replyquote

#176 Poitiers-Lepanto
#179 Geepers

Thanks for the stories. It’s interesting to note that in both attacks, the perps used sucker punches. How much longer before we have to have travel advisories for Americans in Europe the way they do in the Mid-East? It’s incredible how quickly we’ve gotten to this point from the exhiliration of the Iron Curtain falling.

205 storagemanager  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 10:21:58am replyquote

200 song_and_dance_man 7/30/2006 12:20PM PDT
195 storagemanager

All that is happening is the initial machinations prior to the onslaught of the next wave of Jihad.

The truth is out there Neo

Yes the call for World wide Jihad will be answered soon.

206 Abigail Adams  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 10:22:14am replyquote

Farewell, au revoir, goodbye, whatever.
Just shut down that cesspit of corruption right freaking now.
As for the Western Europeans- we should take in whatever is left of the European Jewish community, if they want to come here. The rest of them can just go to hell. They helped to set the Islamic monster loose amongst us with their “guest worker” programs, excusing the refusal of these same “guest workers” to assimilate, failure to maintain a viable birthrate while the Muslim birthrate exploded, participation in the destruction of their own culture & beliefs (political correctness & multiculturalism run amok), & a failure to hold their leadership accountable, to name a few things.
I will probably regret this post later, I know there are many Europeans who do not deserve such a fate. But right now I am just fed up to the teeth, and am not inclined to feel any sympathy for a continent who expects us (US) to save it from itself once again, when the time comes.

207 yehoshua  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 10:23:46am replyquote

Israeli Air Force Staff chief Brig-Gen Amir Eshel said Sunday he could not account for the time gap between the air strike over Qana village at 0100 Saturday night and the building’s collapse six or seven hours later.

It is entirely possible that hezbollah destroyed the building in Qana because of the world’s predictable reaction.

208 ibmkeyboard  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 10:23:57am replyquote

#175 alkmyst

Golden Jerusalem

Re: K.K. or Q.Q. or however ya wanna spell it…

IDF May Not Have Caused Kana Deaths
20:50 Jul 30, ’06 / 5 Av 5766

For a minute there,
I thought that said Katrina deaths.
I figured yeah hell, the Jews are responsbile for everything else,
they probably killed them too.

/sorry.

209 zulubaby  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 10:24:25am replyquote

goodbye_natalie, I’m in safe mode now. It was a blue screener. If I go to Yahoo!, I immediately get an IE error message. I went to programs and ran the repair on IE, but when it prompted me to restart, I said no — I’m afraid to.

210 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 10:24:43am
211 m  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 10:25:03am replyquote

#197 ibmkeyboard

!

LMAO!

212 TotallySirius  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 10:25:34am replyquote

#201 fjordman

The exact same thing happened to the Roman Empire,multiculturalism weakened them to the point their enemies had easy pickings.

Once nationalism dies,the nation itself won’t last long.

213 W-lover  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 10:26:04am replyquote

Abigail-

Love the nic.

But right now I am just fed up to the teeth, and am not inclined to feel any sympathy for a continent who expects us (US) to save it from itself once again, when the time comes.

I’ll be damned before I send my sons to die for those ingrates. *spit*

214 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 10:26:24am
215 zulubaby  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 10:26:32am replyquote

W-lover, come to Israel! Israelis love Americans — little satan and all that 😉

216 storagemanager  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 10:27:24am replyquote

Flowers rest on body bags labeled with names of victims of today’s attack in Qana, Lebanon.
Children victims of Israeli attack
Airstrikes hit building housing civilians in Lebanon
At least 60 killed, including many children
Israel: “tragedy,” “mistake,” Hezbollah targeted
Rice heading back to Washington

CNN THE ENEMY OF ISRAEL! [Link: www.cnn.com…]

217 vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 10:27:41am replyquote

(Long distance phone call, Lebonese Iranian Embassy to the home office)

Nasrallah: Are you there Mahmoud?

Dinnerjacket: Yes, what do you want?

Nasrallah: We’re getting our a**’s kicked as ordered, but I don’t know how much longer we can do it.

Dinnerjacket: Yeah, what do you want from me?

Nasrallah: Looks like we can’t get the Joos to widen the war and they might actually arrange a ceasefire. Rice is coming back. I don’t know how to keep it going for you.

Dinnerjacket: Are you keeping your launchers close to civilians?

Nasrallah: Of course, like always.

Dinnerjacket: Well, next time they hit a launch site _make sure_ the civilians go up in smoke. I mean _really_ go up in smoke, if you catch my drift.

Nasrallah: Yeah, I think so… but what will that do?

Dinnerjacket: (Swears) Look, make a big enough massacre and the peace effort will fail, we can blame it on the Joos and get the mob all worked up. You’ll be in a position to get pounded for a while longer.

Nasrallah: OK (click)

Dinnerjacket: Moron (laughs)

218 WriterMom  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 10:28:41am replyquote

zuuu

219 TotallySirius  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 10:28:57am replyquote

I’ve also noticed a conspicuous lack of Islamic hostility towards China.

and China doesn’t tolerate any religious beliefs.

Maybe it is just because the Islamofascists know the Chinese would just kill them with no hesitation.

220 Dirk Diggler  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 10:29:38am replyquote

I am sick of Israeli and American leaders expressing condolences for these people.

Israel is fighting a war of survival against an enemy that does not distinguish between combatants and non-combatants. Katyushka’s and Fajr missiles don’t discriminate.

As for the “innocent Lebanese civilians” and “poor women and children” killed in yesterday’s attack, let me be clear on this point…

To H-E-L-L with them.

They’ve reaped the bitter harvest that their paranoia, hatred, and vile “religion” has sown.

221 storagemanager  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 10:29:49am replyquote

14 song_and_dance_man 7/30/2006 12:26PM PDT

The Chinese must be quite happy
This is more than significant to eschatolgists.

The conflict of the near east and west is not lost on the Chinese who will take advantage of the growing and turbulent M.E. political situation when the time comes for the little rascals to move.

The Kings of the East…Will move soon.

222 Poitiers-Lepanto  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 10:30:06am replyquote

#204 Doss

It’s incredible how quickly we’ve gotten to this point from the exhiliration of the Iron Curtain falling.

That’s something that drives me particularly crazy.
I was so frigging happy when the evil empire went down !
it looked like the world could reach anything and everything and grow like a wonderful Tree of civilization.

but the madmullahs were already there and Israel had already been in troubles for decades…

223 yehoshua  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 10:31:07am replyquote

#201 Fjordman

There is only one reason that the US will continue to prosper and China will fail:
the US is a faith-based, God centered culture
while China is atheistic. A strictly materialistic outlook, without a spiritual component, cannot triumph. The US was founded and continues to be propelled by deeply religious individuals. The giddy
success of China might last for a generation or two but, without a spiritual component, will not maintain itself over the long run.

224 W-lover  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 10:31:36am replyquote

zulubaby-

I would love to. I’ll also keep Oz on the list…maybe Japan.

225 ggt  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 10:31:53am replyquote

Good Day Lizards! I didn’t get online yesterday so if this has been posted –I apologize. I don’t think it is off topic.

I got it from Atlas Shrugs. scroll down to the second video, it is a little better than the first.

226 hous bin pharteen  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 10:32:12am replyquote

I say we take the land back from the UN and give it to the Indians and let them build a casino on it. With Union labor. And Union workers.

Let the left try and fight that one.

227 ibmkeyboard  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 10:32:19am replyquote

“guest workers” to assimilate, failure to maintain a viable birthrate while the Muslim birthrate exploded,

That is a scary word.
We will assimilate you,
Resistance is futile,
You cannot win.

THE ISLAMSICK BORG.
/turn your head sideways so I can screw this 60 watt bulb into your jaw.

228 WriterMom  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 10:32:26am replyquote

#222 P.L

My Dad always said they weren’t going to send a telegram before it fell. Same with the Ayatollahs and the Reign of the Chinless Ophthamologist. No telegrams, but it will happen. Have faith.

(oink!)

229 BenZacharia  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 10:33:27am replyquote

Geepers

Sh1t on a shingle! BA is no short round! If it had been you or me, we wouldn’t have stood a chance!

He never said anything in his emails.

230 zulubaby  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 10:34:13am replyquote

WriterMama! 🙂

231 zulubaby  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 10:35:02am replyquote

Geepers, unbelievable. Things are probably even worse now.

232 ggt  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 10:35:03am replyquote

#223 yehoshua

There is only one reason that the US will continue to prosper and China will fail:
the US is a faith-based, God centered culture
while China is atheistic.

You are absolutely correct. Our rights come from G-d, not from the state, or a tyrant, or a piece of paper. Free will is our birthright.

When I read or hear mocking of our “Judeo-Christian Values” –I think, oh, you mean “free will”?.

233 Abigail Adams  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 10:35:05am replyquote

#213 W-lover

Thanks!

I feel the same way. However I know the good ol’ USA will come through again. We’re just suckers I guess.

234 WriterMom  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 10:35:17am replyquote

Screw France and the U.N. Blech…spit..feh.

235 storagemanager  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 10:35:44am replyquote

Air Force strikes Hizbullah positions deep in Lebanon

Israeli warplanes and helicopters blasted suspected Hezbollah positions deep in northeastern Lebanon late Sunday, witnesses said. Israeli jets fired at least two missiles on hills on the edge of the village of Yamouni at around 9 P.M. (1800 GMT), the witnesses said.

Israeli helicopters also opened machine-gun fire on hills and mountainous areas about 15 kilometers (9 miles) from Yamouni, they said. (AP)

[Link: www.ynetnews.com…]

236 alkmyst  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 10:35:59am replyquote

Two Wounded in Assault on U.N. offices

Arabs in Gaza City stormed United Nations offices Sunday in protest of the civilian deaths in the Israeli bombing of the Lebanese village of Kana Sunday morning.

Led by Islamic Jihad terrorists, the mob threw stones and fired assault rifles, wounding two people. United Nations personnel inside the compound were able to escape unharmed, but the buildings were ransacked.

That’s a cryin shame, really…

Not even any kidnappings or beheading videos? The pallys are going soft…

237 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 10:37:09am
238 WriterMom  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 10:37:40am replyquote

Has this been posted yet?

Chief Rabbi of Israel creates prayer site for Israeli soldiers. There are names of specific soldiers to mention in your prayers…

239 vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 10:38:39am replyquote

Palis attack UN offices.

Makes about as much sense if the Western Allies had reacted to the German invasion of Poland by kicking over statues and spray-painting their names in the Vatican.

Idiots.

(No lover of the UN here, but I gotta call “moron” when I see one)

240 WriterMom  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 10:38:49am replyquote
241 Geepers  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 10:38:58am replyquote

Looks like the LA Times is trying to out stupid the Toronto Star:

Jewish Center Shooter’s Motive Is a Mystery.

But they do print this speculation:

Some speculated he might have sought to cloak an animus toward women by acting as a self-appointed warrior against Israel or against Jews.

He hid his muslim misogyny behind his muslim Jew hatred. Brilliant.

242 Fjordman  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 10:39:00am replyquote

I’ve also noticed a conspicuous lack of Islamic hostility towards China. Maybe it is just because the Islamofascists know the Chinese would just kill them with no hesitation.

Internally, yes. And they also do view them as quiet allies on the international scene, with the determination to topple the West and to keep India down. Remember: It was China that supplied much of the nuclear technology to Pakistan, which thanks to Dr. Khan is now spreading throughout the Ummah. China is also no doubt using North Korea as a proxy against Japan and the USA.

243 ibmkeyboard  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 10:39:05am replyquote

211,
M-M,
How are you pretty girl?

and what are you doing,
and where are you doing it at?
nosey little freak,
aint I?

244 W-lover  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 10:39:22am replyquote

Abby-

I think “your husband” knew it was America’s fate to bear the Torch of Liberty and all that entails.

It’s sad it always falls to us, but if we Americans don’t defend Liberty, who will?

245 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 10:41:09am
246 m  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 10:42:04am replyquote

#243 ibmkeyboard

Hiya sweets!

I am sitting by the pool, watching the boys swim, enjoying my last weekend day before Monday 😉

Whatchoo doin? 😀

247 Thanos  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 10:43:06am replyquote

I’m still working on the war update, as below

To echo my comments in previous two update posts regarding the real reasons for the violence in Afghanistan, an article from the Australian:

A MAJOR part of the violence in southern Afghanistan is due to opium poppy cultivation and drug trafficking, the commander of NATO forces in the troubled country said Saturday.

“I’m convinced that much of the violence is only caused by the drugs-related activities in the south,” said British General David Richards, who on Monday assumes command for all the international troops based in violence-plagued southern Afghanistan.

There was an inextricable link between opium and the violence seen, for example, in southern Helmand province, he told a press conference.

This goes hand in glove with my theory that both Al Qaeda and the Taliban are on their financial last legs — it takes cash to keep a terror operation going, there’s food, pay, and the armaments, as well as the quarterly travel budget.

That’s why it’s extremely important to stop these dangerous ideologies at their financial sources, thank you New York Times. All of the “Visualize World Peace” bumper stickers in the world won’t stop this as long as funds flow. Funds flow through mostly criminal activities, several of which those folks sporting “visualize world peace” bumper stickers finance (Drugs, porn, smuggling, and Social charities that in the end fund terrorism.) Be careful who you send that next ”relief check” to Star Willow Smith. Shortly we will see a flood of “Save Lebanon” charity pleas… but will that money go to feeding children, or will it go to more rockets?

Zulu, give me a min and I will work with you

248 ibmkeyboard  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 10:43:14am replyquote

Arabs in Gaza City stormed United Nations offices Sunday in protest of the civilian deaths in the Israeli bombing of the Lebanese village of Kana Sunday morning.

Led by Islamic Jihad terrorists, the mob threw stones and fired assault rifles, wounding two people. United Nations personnel inside the compound were able to escape unharmed, but the buildings were ransacked.

Ah Ha,
the Palis finally raised their little heads.

/but you notice it was not a slam against Israel. We aint stupid.

249 W-lover  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 10:44:19am replyquote

239 vet-

It makes sense to me. I’ve always wondered how the UN could establish Israel and yet escape Arab wrath. That’s whats always confused me.

America is to blame for Israel! Pay no attention to that UN Charter.

250 bruxellesblog  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 10:44:48am replyquote

#240 WriterMom

Video here: Why did building fall 8 hours later?

Secret Zionist death rays?

/Mufti

251 Fjordman  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 10:44:49am replyquote

There is only one reason that the US will continue to prosper and China will fail:
the US is a faith-based, God centered culture
while China is atheistic. The giddy success of China might last for a generation or two but, without a spiritual component, will not maintain itself over the long run.

Christianity is spreading quite fast in China as well as South Korea, at the same time as Islam is spreading in the formerly Christian Europe.

God, if he exists, does have a sense of humor.

252 Abigail Adams  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 10:45:01am replyquote

W-lover-

Yeah, “my husband John”, was one smart man 😉

I hear you, the few carry the many, etc etc.

253 BenZacharia  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 10:46:00am replyquote

Countdown to the 9th of Av, 3

So, Tuesday pm Wedsday pm, Sh1t gonna hit the fan or what?

254 infidella  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 10:46:19am replyquote

ctc.usma.edu

OT:

Has this site — particularly The Management of Savagry translation –been noted on LGF?

255 WriterMom  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 10:46:57am replyquote

#250 bruxellesblog

LOL! The Zionist Hair Beams-of course…shhh…don’t tell anyone.

256 cbinflux  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 10:47:02am replyquote

Just awful…
HOLISTIC MEDICINE
Ahkmed the Arab came to the United States from the Middle East, and he was only here a few months when he became very ill.
He went to doctor after doctor, but none of them could help him.
Finally, he went to an Arab doctor who said:
“Take dees bocket, go into de odder room, poop in de bocket, pee on de poop, and den put your head down over de bocket and breathe in de fumes for ten minutes.”
Ahkmed took the bucket, went into the other room, pooped in the Bucket, peed on the poop, bent over and breathed in the fumes for ten Minutes.
Coming back to the doctor he said, “It worked. I feel terrific! What was wrong with me?”

The doctor said, “You were homesick!”

257 vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 10:47:23am replyquote

#249 W-Lover

Good angle. Hadn’t thought of that… it is rather odd that they escaped blame.

Probably been covering their a**’s for all these years by anti-Israeli resolutions and ‘helping’ the Israelis give up ‘land of peace’.

/spit

258 W-lover  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 10:47:54am replyquote

Abby-

Yeah, “my husband John”, was one smart man

I love you both. LOL

(P.S. we’ve been talking about “you” here this weekend. “You” have a lot of admirers here.)

259 froghat  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 10:48:52am replyquote

Countdown to the 9th of Av, 3?

Whats that?

260 bruxellesblog  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 10:49:26am replyquote

#255 WriterMom

We shall destroy the bastards with biting sarcasm!

261 vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 10:49:28am replyquote

#256

ROTFLMAO

(Good one!)

262 W-lover  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 10:50:18am replyquote

BenZ-

Countdown to the 9th of Av, 3?

You been taking jdrool lessons? LOL

263 zulubaby  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 10:51:09am replyquote

Geepers, LOL, we’d be lost without the genius of the LA Times. Where do they find these “reporters”? Where is Jason Blaire (sp?) when you need him?

264 ibmkeyboard  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 10:52:05am replyquote

#246 m 7/30/2006
#243 ibmkeyboard

Hiya sweets!

I am sitting by the pool, watching the boys swim, enjoying my last weekend day before Monday 😉

Whatchoo doin? 😀

You have a Pool?
I could be over there swimming while you are at work? You didnt tell me, or I didnt ask.
We are poor folk, all I have is one of those Wal-Mart slide down the grass hill water sprayers. All my swim suits have green water marks on the butt. Cant go out in public, People think I was Palastinens.
But someday I plan to buy a 200 dollar plastic 4 foot deep 10,000 gal. water user per month.

/probably cost 300 dollars a month to fill.

lol

265 BenZacharia  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 10:52:18am replyquote

256 cbinflux

Substitute moslem for arab and you got yourself a deal!

266 storagemanager  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 10:52:19am replyquote

BenZacharia 7/30/2006 12:46PM PDT
Countdown to the 9th of Av, 3

So, Tuesday pm Wedsday pm, Sh1t gonna hit the fan or what?

You may be right.

Although this holiday is primarily meant to commemorate the destruction of the Temple, it is appropriate to consider on this day the many other tragedies of the Jewish people. In chronological order it’s source began with the sin of the spies whom spoke negatively about the land of Israel to the Jewish nation (noted in the book of Bamidbar of the Torah). That same night the Jews mourned for lack of faith. Ever since, G_d had given the nation a real reason to mourn in correction of this lack of faith. Throughout history, the Temples burned, the Jews were expelled from Spain in 1492, Pogroms and World War I and II have all occurred on this momentous day. In the future this day of mourning will completely turn into a day of rejoicing as the true Moshiach will be born on this day removing the yoke of the nations around us

.

[Link: www.jewishglobe.com…]

267 solomonpanting  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 10:53:42am replyquote

241 Geepers

I just returned with my wife from the market, and while waiting in line I saw that headline. I really do believe if one gets the news only from papers like this, one becomes more stupid and ignorant.

268 really grumpy big dog johnson  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 10:53:50am replyquote

I’ve been looking for hours, and I’ve yet seen any video of any dead victims of this “massacre in Qana”.

Which strikes me as more than a bit odd, considering the rabid appetite the terrorists have for splashy and gory publicity regarding alleged atrocities by Israel.

What is it I’m missing here?

(Besides evidence of an atrocity…)

269 Manker  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 10:54:13am replyquote

Lebanese army open fire on Israeli helicopters

So the Leb Army has a death wish.

I guess the IAF should help them fufill it.

270 WriterMom  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 10:54:23am replyquote

#259 froghat

Tisha B’Av is a day of mourning for the Jewish people…I’ll get a link.

#260 bruxellesblog

Absolutely. Did you hear about the text message that someone sent Ahmadinejad?

“Your armpits stink”. The Iranian secret service tried to track the phone owner to no avail. (Not a joke…I posted it a few months ago…)

271 hornet  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 10:54:37am replyquote

Annan urges action on ceasefire “NOW.”

[Link: news.bbc.co.uk…]

272 WriterMom  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 10:55:29am replyquote
273 Abigail Adams  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 10:55:51am replyquote

#258 W-lover-

“I” thank you for the kind words! 😉

Seriously, John & Abigail Adams were very special people. We were damned lucky to have them.

274 froghat  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 10:57:23am replyquote

Is the US gonna bomb Iran soon?

275 yehoshua  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 10:57:39am replyquote

#232 ggt

Ultimately, this war is a clash of two civilizations or viewpoints: one holds that God is either non-existent (China, Europe, most democrats) or so far away that He is either irrelevant or can only be reached through extreme behaviors, such as martyrdom and murder of “infidels”(Islam);
the other viewpoint sees God as immanent, caring, close at hand, and life-embracing, that God is not far away and unreachable but right here and always approachable, that we do not have to engage in extreme behavior to find God, but may find Him in simple everyday acts.

276 ibmkeyboard  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 10:59:03am replyquote

256 cbinflux

Coming back to the doctor he said, “It worked. I feel terrific! What was wrong with me?”

The doctor said, “You were homesick!”

Your e@mails are going to hell for that one.
/it was great. lol

277 BenZacharia  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 10:59:48am replyquote

262 W-lover 7/30/2006 12:50PM PDT

BenZ-

Countdown to the 9th of Av, 3?

You been taking jdrool lessons? LOL

THAT IS NOT FUNNY!

>:^P

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278 bruxellesblog  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 11:00:22am replyquote

#260 bruxellesblog

Did you hear about the text message that someone sent Ahmadinejad?

“Your armpits stink”. The Iranian secret service tried to track the phone owner to no avail. (Not a joke…I posted it a few months ago…)

Hmmm… I had no idea that our favoriate Iranian had spent an extended time in Germany and Holland and adopted their hygene habits…

While we make jokes about the French and BO, I have to say that the Germans and the Dutch, pound for pound, are off the chart when it comes to their ‘natural scent’ when on a nice high-rolling summer day. Really, we are talking about a punishing stink that could offend livestock.

279 DistantThunder  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 11:01:31am replyquote

I wonder what will be considered the defining moment in this current war with Hezb’Allah. And I’m curious to know when when it dawned on the leadership that they had made a huge miscalculation.

I think one of the defining moments is when Pres. Bush said – they are allowed to defend themselves. The entire universe shifted at that moment.

280 cbinflux  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 11:01:35am replyquote

#254 infidella
bad link..?

#265 Ben Z
I stand corrected

HOLISTIC MEDICINE
Ahkmed the Arab Muslim came to the United States from the Middle East, and he was only here a few months when he became very ill.
He went to doctor after doctor, but none of them could help him.
Finally, he went to an Arab Muslim doctor who said:
“Take dees bocket, go into de odder room, poop in de bocket, pee on de poop, and den put your head down over de bocket and breathe in de fumes for ten minutes.”
Ahkmed took the bucket, went into the other room, pooped in the Bucket, peed on the poop, bent over and breathed in the fumes for ten Minutes.
Coming back to the doctor he said, “It worked. I feel terrific! What was wrong with me?”

The doctor said, “You were homesick!”

281 Thanos  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 11:01:39am replyquote

Zulu:

Tell me what the error says if you wrote it down, that’s the best place to start. It’s probably something flash that’s blowing up in background if it happens at yahoo. The first thing you should problably try before you use a disk restore is to see if restore is turned on for your computer, and back up to an earlier date and restore.

Some general recommendations:

Try reloading latest version of flash.

Go to microsoft update, get the security patches.

Also go here, run their online virus scan

Then go here, download and run their spyware blocker, do the protect all thing, you can back it down later.

282 Abigail Adams  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 11:01:51am replyquote

#274 froghat- cool name btw!

The road home from Iraq & Afghanistan goes through Iran.

I think it will happen. As long as the mullahs rule Iran, Hezbollah & Syria will run amok.

283 BabbaZee  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 11:03:36am replyquote

Iranian Assistance to Hizbullah – Iran Revolutionary Guards Officer: Hizbullah Has Iran-Trained Diver, Naval Commando Units; We Have Constructed Command Rooms for Hizbullah; Iranian Martyrdom Forces Have Been Sent To Lebanon

[SNIP]
On July 29, 2006, the London Arabic daily Al-Sharq Al-Awsat published a detailed article on assistance extended to Hizbullah by Iran’s Revolutionary Guards, as reported by a high-ranking Revolutionary Guards officer who had trained Hizbullah naval units. According to the officer, Hizbullah has a diver unit and a naval commando unit. He further claims that Revolutionary Guards officers assisted Hizbullah in the July 14, 2006 firing of a C802 missile at an Israeli Navy ship, and had also helped Hizbullah construct underground facilities – including command and control rooms – which are being operated by Revolutionary Guards officers along with Hizbullah fighters.
[SNIP]

[Link: www.memri.org…] .

284 ploome hineni[deleted]  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 11:03:39am
285 BenZacharia  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 11:03:53am replyquote

.

In the days of Israels Future glory it will become a time of celebration of a great victory. Like Purim, only permanent.

.

286 W-lover  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 11:06:04am replyquote

BenZ!

You know I was teasin’! LOL

Hope that finger was for CAIR…

287 BenZacharia  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 11:06:25am replyquote

BTW Helos, 4, were in the BEKKA Valley! Go Team!

288 ibmkeyboard  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 11:07:07am replyquote

#274 froghat 7/30/2006 12:57PM PDT

Is the US gonna bomb Iran soon?

There is hope.

Things would be tough for Israel for a few weeks but then we could destroy Iranian Oil supplies and show all the other Arab countries what we think of terrorists supporters.

Support terrorism,
and we destroy your abilty to be a dictator.

Ask Libyan leader Kadaffi about his desire to mess with us.

289 BabbaZee  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 11:07:08am replyquote

Tisha B’Av
A Complete Overview:
[Link: www.aish.com…]

Psalm 83
[Link: www.acwitness.org…]

290 mahatma coat  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 11:07:22am replyquote

#282 Abigail…would like to see it happen,it needs to happen.But as mark steyn points out today,nations not armies go to war and I really doubt there is sufficient will in the US at the moment

291 ggt  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 11:07:30am replyquote

Ok, so I am trying to catch-up. I’m 1/2 way thru the Obsession video posted a few down and I can’t watch anymore.

My head is spinning.

292 Thanos  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 11:07:55am replyquote

#285 You might be interested in this, Tuesday noon eastern, Evening in Israel:

[Link: www.israelnationalnews.com…]

293 ggt  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 11:08:21am replyquote

If we bombed Iranian oil supplies, wouldn’t that hurt Fwance? hmmm . . .

294 ploome hineni[deleted]  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 11:09:12am
295 Catttt  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 11:09:27am replyquote

OT

On Fox – Jennifer Griffen reports that IDF sources say they think the building in Qana may have blown up due to the munitions stored there. They say their air strike to the area was at around midnight, and the report on the exploding building came about seven hours later. Fox also mentioned – why were children in a building that was full of munitions?

296 W-lover  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 11:09:37am replyquote

Abby-

Seriously, John & Abigail Adams were very special people. We were damned lucky to have them.

Yes they were, and yes we were. As well as some other great couples.

Thank You, Lord, for all of them.

297 Geepers  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 11:10:11am replyquote

solomonpanting (#267)

I just returned with my wife from the market, and while waiting in line I saw that headline. I really do believe if one gets the news only from papers like this, one becomes more stupid and ignorant.

There’s hope yet:

As you can see, in 1970, nearly 1 out of 6 people living in the L.A. basin subscribed to the Los Angeles Times everyday. While the population has multiplied almost 70% in the 35 years, the Times’ circulation has actually fallen. Today, about 1 in 13 people subscribe, and the trends are getting worse.

You know what I like about this graph? After that little dead cat bounce during the election of 2000, the strongest slide, the steepest part of the downslope, is from 9/11 forward. That’s especially when the Los Angeles Times collectively decided to not face the war seriously, or report the war responsibly, and the public responded appropriately.

298 ibmkeyboard  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 11:10:11am replyquote

#277 BenZacharia 7/30/2006 12:59PM PDT

262 W-lover 7/30/2006 12:50PM PDT

BenZ-

Countdown to the 9th of Av, 3?

You been taking jdrool lessons? LOL

THAT IS NOT FUNNY!

>:^P

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did i copy it.
use that with gordon

299 tigger2005  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 11:10:33am replyquote

The UN Security Council is going to condemn Israel for a “massacre” that hasn’t even been proven to have happened, and even if it did, it may not even have been Israel’s fault.

I mean, shouldn’t they, like, conduct an investigation first, before they take the word of Israel’s enemy for what happened?

If Israel secretly emptied a few apartment complexes, blew them up, then claimed that Hiz’b’allah missiles had struck the buildings and that hundreds of civilians were killed, would the UN just take their word for it?

WTF?

300 ibmkeyboard  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 11:11:06am replyquote

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did i copy it.
use that with gordon
OH GORDON

301 zulubaby  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 11:12:25am replyquote

Thanos, thank you! I’m trying to do everything that you’ve suggested but the pages keep closing with error messages. This is a total nightmare.

302 MSMediaCritic  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 11:12:44am replyquote

Any organization that cannot define Hamas, Islamic Jihad, etc. as terrorists has made itself irrelevant.

The resolutions it does pass are ignored. Whenever anyone enforces them (such as the US with Iraq or Israel with Lebanon), the UN condemns them.

How could anyone take them seriously?

I think, if we do stay in the UN, we should make Gilbert Gottfried or someone similarly annoying our ambassador. He should veto everything they try to do in as many words as possible. Eventually, they will give up trying to do anything.

303 bruxellesblog  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 11:13:37am replyquote

They say their air strike to the area was at around midnight, and the report on the exploding building came about seven hours later. Fox also mentioned – why were children in a building that was full of munitions?

Well then, I’m sure that it is only a matter of time until we hear a ground-swell of condemnation from the ‘global-community’ (spit) against this act of barbarism…

/turning circles in anticipation

304 Thanos  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 11:14:31am replyquote

Zulu, what do the error messages say, are you running xp, 2000. ME or what version of gates gear?

305 Iron Fist[deleted]  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 11:14:42am
306 Catttt  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 11:14:51am replyquote

291 ggt

It’s a deeply troubling video. Nonie Darwish was always so calm – she made it more bearable, somehow.

To lighten things up, here is a more fun obession: Gizmo Flushes.

307 W-lover  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 11:15:46am replyquote

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did i copy it.
use that with gordon alan
OH GORDON ALAN

/sorry

308 Haiku  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 11:16:15am replyquote

Is the Israeli government backing down or holding firm? How is the mood in Israel today? Are people still supporting the war or has there been a backlash?
I really hope that Israel stands strong and defends itself vigorously against the Islamic terrorist appeasers. Hizzbollah is to blame for the tragedy that happenned not Israel.
I have not watched the news since the early morning because of the blatant anti-Israel propaganda. No surprise that CNN was the worst. It should re-name itself Al-Manar.

309 tigger2005  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 11:16:57am replyquote

# 299 cont.

And dammit Israel … quit apologizing! It doesn’t help! Stop accepting responsibility for things before an investigation is even conducted!

310 Abigail Adams  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 11:17:02am replyquote

#290 mahatmacoat

I am afraid you are right. The moonbats & MSM have done a good job of alienating the majority of the public from the Administration.
OTOH Iran may do something stupid that plays right into our hands, and that is entirely possible with those Muslim wing nuts in Teheran.

311 ibmkeyboard  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 11:18:18am replyquote

#307 W-lover 7/30/2006 01:15PM PDT

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did i copy it.
use that with gordon alan
OH GORDON ALAN. lol

this is great, thank you BENZ

312 Thanos  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 11:18:23am replyquote

Zulu, try going from your start menu, go to accessories, then system tools, do system restore. it should pop a window, say you want to do a restore, then it should pop a calendar. Try backing up to an earlier date and see if it goes away.

313 Dave the…..  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 11:19:22am replyquote

why were children in a building that was full of munitions?

So they can then be killed and used as propaganda against the Jewish state. Not that I need to tell Lizards that.

314 galloping granny  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 11:20:08am replyquote

John Bolton is a mensch!

U.S. Envoy Bolton: Israel Must Consider Hizbullah ‘Barbarian’
21:54 Jul 30, ’06 / 5 Av 5766

(IsraelNN.com) John Bolton, American Ambassador to the United Nations, said outside the Security Council meeting Sunday night that Hizbullah immorally uses civilians as shields but that Israel is forced to take into “this barbaric practice” while exercising its right to self-defense.

315 ibmkeyboard  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 11:21:08am replyquote

quit apologizing! It doesn’t help! Stop accepting responsibility for things before an investigation is even conducted!

esp if Murtha is investigating.

Where is that little round troop supporter?

316 DP111  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 11:21:39am replyquote

201 Fjordman

Hi. How is it going in Norway?

I have never known such hot weather in the UK for such a long time.

Is is a sad fact that wherever Muslims go, they cause social discord. An analogy could be that of a few sand grains in your car engine. It doesnt take much for it to cease up.

Christianity is spreading quite fast in China as well as South Korea, at the same time as Islam is spreading in the formerly Christian Europe.

God, if he exists, does have a sense of humor.

Black humour definitely. Eastern Christians regarded the invasion of Islam, and the following depradations on them, as a punishment from God.

A concise and useful article to keep as handy reference

Islamic Terrorism – Is it a New Threat?

by MA Khan

24th July, 2006
[Link: islam-watch.org…]
Zulubaby

If you can see this post.

Try starting up in SAFEMODE. If it does, then use SYSTEM RESTORE to go back to a date when the PC was working.

Best of luck.

317 ggt  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 11:21:51am replyquote

catt! Thanks, I that helped!

318 Manker  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 11:22:25am replyquote

#287 BenZacharia

BTW Helos, 4, were in the BEKKA Valley! Go Team!

Oh, now I get it, they didn’t have death wish (well maybe they do and) they just didn’t want us to find Saddams treasures.

IDF of the carribbean, arrg!

319 tigger2005  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 11:22:30am replyquote

# 310 Abigail

Bush himself has done a pretty good job of alienating people, IMO. The port security fiasco, immigration, his inexplicable loss of nerve in the WoT … I mean, didn’t he say we would attack the terrorists AND those who harbor them? Didn’t he talk about pre-emptive war? the Iranian and Syrian regimes should have been toppled 2 years ago.

320 Dave the…..  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 11:22:33am replyquote

#314 Galloper

John Bolten is probably the most valuable person in the Bush administration. He’s about the only one, with the possible exception of Cheney, who almost never goes PC and whimpy.

And the Dems want him out because other nations, those who do not have our best interests in mind, don’t like him.

321 Thanos  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 11:23:11am replyquote

John Bolton is a mensch!

U.S. Envoy Bolton: Israel Must Consider Hizbullah ‘Barbarian’
21:54 Jul 30, ’06 / 5 Av 5766

(IsraelNN.com) John Bolton, American Ambassador to the United Nations, said outside the Security Council meeting Sunday night that Hizbullah immorally uses civilians as shields but that Israel is forced to take into “this barbaric practice” while exercising its right to self-defense.

Yes he is, and his new confirmation hearings are in committee now. If you haven’t done so already, please take a moment to jot an email to your congress critters stating firmly that you want him confirmed without any bullcrap this time.

322 ibmkeyboard  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 11:23:24am replyquote

#300 ibmkeyboard 7/30/2006 01:11PM PDT

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did i copy it.
use that with gordon
OH GORDON
bold is beautiful

323 ibmkeyboard  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 11:24:40am replyquote

#322 ibmkeyboard 7/30/2006 01:23PM PDT

#300 ibmkeyboard 7/30/2006 01:11PM PDT

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did i copy it.
use that with gordon

324 W-lover  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 11:25:14am replyquote

tigger2005-

I mean, shouldn’t they, like, conduct an investigation first, before they take the word of Israel’s enemy for what happened?

Now where’s the fun in that?

/sarc

325 m  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 11:25:30am replyquote

#264 ibmkeyboard

If you couldn’t make it down here, just put your thinking cap on!

326 Abigail Adams  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 11:25:52am replyquote

#314 galloping granny-

What’s a mensch?

John Bolton is the UN’s worst nightmare. I love him just for that.

327 Pro-Bush Canuck  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 11:26:19am replyquote

I guess Leftists are sometimes correct.

I always assumed that the Left railed against Mel Gibson and the Passion of The Christ film simply because they are decadent atheist filth.

Well, they mostly are decadent atheist filth, but they were also on the money when it comes to Mel Gibson. Seems he is in fact a scumbag anti-Semite holocaust-denying “Catholic” after all.

328 BabbaZee  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 11:27:41am replyquote

294 ploome hineni
Thanks Darlin’!

329 BenZacharia  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 11:27:48am replyquote

}W-Lover{

330 zulubaby  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 11:28:21am replyquote

Thanos, 2000 — I didn’t manage to get to your links because the windows kept closing. Now I restarted normally. Weird. Should I still install the things you linked to?

331 Pro-Bush Canuck  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 11:28:22am replyquote

However being the filth they are, the MSM of course makes sure to rub in the fact that Gibson is a “devout Catholic”. As though a man with such evil views deserves to be called that. He can claim to be a Catholic, but he does not know Christ if he hates the Jews.

332 Catttt  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 11:28:44am replyquote

#305 Iron Fist

I posted on the dead thread that the ICRC (Red Cross) indicated it is trying (since July 12, 2006) to visit the Israeli prisoners – and as you say – crickets from Hez and Lebanon.

Also, buried deep in a story about the Qana strike, I found a bit where the speaker of the house in Lebanon (a Hez rep, iirc) indicated Lebanon may have changed its tune – they want an exchange of Lebanese prisoners with the IDF prisoners (before, the call was for a Pali/Hez exchange) (after a ceasefire). Don’t know what that signifies.

333 Bob’s Kid  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 11:29:42am replyquote

but he does not know Christ if he hates the Jews.

Amen to that one.

334 ggt  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 11:29:48am replyquote

Mel Gibson, I thought there had to be something to his staunch “Catholic” beliefs –trying to conquer his own demons–well, I hope he is able to do it.

335 Dave the…..  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 11:29:53am replyquote

201 Fjordman

Hi. How is it going in Norway?

Hey, the top Lutefisk maker in the US, Olson’s of Minneapolis, bought their main competitor, Mike’s Lutefisk of Glenwood, Minnesota. The Olson’s say they are by far the largest producer in the world of the fish. Beating the top ones in Sweden and Norway.

336 mahatma coat  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 11:30:34am replyquote

319 tigger…true I’m fairly dissapointed ,espescially this term.But I get the impression(I’m not in the states)that the majority of “the alienated ” think he’s already being too aggressive…go figure

337 Catttt  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 11:30:42am replyquote

Jesus, Mary, and Joseph. Shut the f**k up about Mel Gibson in everying f**king thread!

338 Ann  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 11:30:57am replyquote

#319 tigger2005

I mean, didn’t he say we would attack the terrorists AND those who harbor them? Didn’t he talk about pre-emptive war?

Yes he did and yes we are in Iraq. And look at the howling. None of the LLL’s have a problem with Afghanistan, but Iraq drives them insane.

I would like us to be in Iran and Syria, too.

But if Congress balks and funding is cut, all is lost.

President Bush and his Administration have to walk a very fine line. I blame the MSM for undermining the effort to save Western Civilization.

I am appalled at how little my co-workers know about the goal of the islamists. They still watch evening news.

339 Thanos  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 11:31:41am replyquote

#314 galloping granny-

What’s a mensch?

A blend of Superman, Machismo, and Einstein.

Churchill, Reagan, Dayan, == mensch

anan == putz

and KOS makes me schpilkess… ermm did I spell that right, and is that the right term for nutso?

340 W-lover  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 11:31:45am replyquote

Cattt & Iron Fist-

I posted on the dead thread that the ICRC (Red Cross) indicated it is trying (since July 12, 2006) to visit the Israeli prisoners – and as you say – crickets from Hez and Lebanon.

AND the msm- on the status of the soldiers as well as Hiz denying the IRC a visit. But if the shoe was on the other foot- whoa-ho!

341 Dave the…..  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 11:32:04am replyquote

I always assumed that the Left railed against Mel Gibson and the Passion of The Christ film simply because they are decadent atheist filth.

Actually I still believe that is the reason they went after him.

They probably had no idea about his problems or they would have brought them out at that time. Instead they argued that if someone made a movie about the basis of Christianity, then you are a bigot.

342 Catttt  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 11:33:10am replyquote

340 W-lover

Oh, yeah. It took me a while to find the press release from ICRC – not exactly being trumpeted from the rooftops by MSM.

343 W-lover  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 11:33:47am replyquote

BenZ-

}W-Lover{

Ouch!

344 mahatma coat  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 11:33:49am replyquote

337 cattt…amen to that

345 Dave the…..  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 11:34:42am replyquote

I am appalled at how little my co-workers know about the goal of the islamists. They still watch evening news.

My fairly conservative Republican brother gets his news from:

A) CBS network news
B) Time
C) Newsweek

Fortunately he gets a little talk radio in, but his knowledge of what’s really going on is twisted. His dislike of LLL’s is what keeps him voting Republican.

346 W-lover  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 11:34:43am replyquote

Cattt-

The msm is the enemy.

347 BenZacharia  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 11:35:06am replyquote

mensch – that’s me, a man among men

348 Dave the…..  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 11:35:43am replyquote

Jesus, Mary, and Joseph. Shut the f**k up about Mel Gibson in everying f**king thread!

So does this mean we can’t discuss if “What Women Want” is really a chick movie or not?

349 cbinflux  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 11:36:52am replyquote

OT

Crossers burying border in garbage
Despite cleanups, trash along smuggling routes piles up faster than ever
[Link: www.azstarnet.com…]

In the Buenos Aires National Wildlife Refuge near Arivaca, No More Deaths volunteer Mark Kelso picks his way through a trash-laden area that is a pickup site for illegal entrants, an illustration of the nearly 25 million pounds of garbage thought to have been dropped in Southern Arizona.

Image: 140004-1.jpg

As usual, US volunteers will repeatedly clean up after them. Where’s Gore, Greenpeace, Sierra, the US and Mexican govts?

350 BenZacharia  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 11:40:24am replyquote

{W-Lover}

‘Ouch’ is a better ‘I’m sorry’

351 Catttt  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 11:41:08am replyquote

348 Dave the…

Yes. 😉

352 zulubaby  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 11:41:26am replyquote

Thanos, you speak Yiddish? LOL

For those interested, here is a great site for Yiddish, one of my favourites — Yiddishkeit

353 W-lover  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 11:43:05am replyquote

{BenZ}

As long as you still luv me- OUCH OUCH OUCH!

🙂

354 solomonpanting  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 11:43:59am replyquote

OT:

TEHRAN, Iran – Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has ordered government and cultural bodies to use modified Persian words to replace foreign words that have crept into the language, such as “pizzas” which will now be known as “elastic loaves,” state media reported Saturday.

What’s Persian for “incoming!”?

355 Geepers  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 11:44:16am replyquote

Says AllahPundit:

I have a crazy hunch that the people who believe a controlled demolition took down the Towers on 9/11 will be decidedly more skeptical about this one:

Qana bombing: Building collapsed eight hours after attack

356 Thanos  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 11:44:46am replyquote

Thanos, you speak Yiddish? LOL

Solamente un pequeno… I read a lot of Asimov as a child.

357 bruxellesblog  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 11:44:47am replyquote

#348 Dave the… 7/30/2006

So does this mean we can’t discuss if “What Women Want” is really a chick movie or not?

FYI, Way back in the dark ages of 2002/03, back before you had a registraion feature on LGF, the troll ignore topic du jour was the film “Mr. Holland’s Opus”.

Anytime a troll would exibit troll-like drooling, the entire thread would switch to a discussion of the finer points of Mr. Holland’s Opus. I dunno, maybe What Women Want would be a viable substitute?

I’m not fussed either way, to be honest.

358 ploome hineni[deleted]  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 11:44:48am
359 ploome hineni[deleted]  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 11:45:29am
360 GreenSoccer  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 11:46:04am replyquote

Thanos 339

No. Shpilkkes means on pins and needles as in you feel like you are sitting on shpilkes.

Meshuga = nuts as he is driving me meshuga or he is meshuga.

361 paul in Va  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 11:46:22am replyquote

#295 Cattt

On Fox – Jennifer Griffen reports that IDF sources say they think the building in Qana may have blown up due to the munitions stored there. They say their air strike to the area was at around midnight, and the report on the exploding building came about seven hours later. Fox also mentioned – why were children in a building that was full of munitions?

Links at
[Link: www.jpost.com…]
[Link: www.ynetnews.com…]
Pajamas Media has it up, too.

362 realwest  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 11:47:02am replyquote

That must be some ride Charles is on today! Anybody know how hot it is out his way? Sure hope he takes care of himself (and drinks lots of water)!

363 BenZacharia  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 11:47:41am replyquote

354 solomonpanting

Let’s adopt the idea here, first 2 words to banish are allah and muslim, substitutes will be satan and goathumper

364 Dave the…..  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 11:47:42am replyquote

such as “pizzas” which will now be known as “elastic loaves,” state media reported Saturday

Suddenly Papa Murphy’s stock falls to pennies after they change the name of their product to “take-n-bake elastic loaves”.

365 Catttt  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 11:47:47am replyquote

352 zulubaby

I read Leo Rosten’s books when I was a kid, and I loved The Joys of Yiddish and learned as much as someone in a small town in Colorado could about it back then.

Several years ago, I made a Jewish male friend very uncomfortable when he found out not only did I know Yiddish – I knew some Hungarian (via having met some Gypsies in Europe). His dad was from Hungary (holocaust survivor as well). It was funny – he found it very troubling that I could understand and use some Yiddish.

366 W-lover  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 11:48:41am replyquote

ploome-

That song makes me think of Alan…

367 zulubaby  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 11:51:05am replyquote

Shpilkes – Pins and needles

Meshugeh – Crazy

Meshugeneh – Mad, crazy, insane female

Meshugener – Mad, crazy, insane man

And that concludes today’s Yiddish lesson.

368 BenZacharia  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 11:51:10am replyquote

Love hurts, when done right.

/Marque De Sade

369 Catttt  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 11:51:25am replyquote

Re Yiddish – After several years, I almost no longer snicker when I see the name “Peter Schmuck.” (He’s a sports columnist at The Balimore Sun.)

370 Thanos  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 11:51:27am replyquote

Zulu, thanks for the great link btw, I like all languages actually, the more obscure the better. Did you know that Bolverk == Evil Worker in finno-urdic root language?

Amadinejad == Bolverker

371 Stuck in california  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 11:52:26am replyquote

Realwest, it’s lower 80s inland. Probably 70s in the coast.

372 zulubaby  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 11:54:55am replyquote

Cattt, how weird, I wonder why it made him uncomfortable. I absolutely love Yiddish, I so wish I were fluent in it.

373 brickthruplateglasswindow  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 11:55:11am replyquote

#358 ploome hineni

Nazareth, yes?

374 Thanos  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 11:55:14am replyquote

Did you get your ‘puter working ok Z?

375 Catttt  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 11:55:20am replyquote

Handy word for LLLs and/or MSMs:

Pisher – Male infant, a little squirt, a nobody.

Example (from [Link: atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com…] What a joke, listening to some pisher fresh out of college talk about peace.

376 cbinflux  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 11:55:53am replyquote

#354 soloman

Shi-ite!

377 W-lover  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 11:56:04am replyquote

such as “pizzas” which will now be known as “elastic loaves,” state media reported Saturday

Like “elastic” isn’t Western.

378 infidella  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 11:57:22am replyquote

#280 and all–

You’re right; bad link. Anyway, if you put in ctc.usma.edu, it takes you to a vital translation of terrorist strategy for the caliphate. It may be old news to LGFers, but if not–…chilling stuff.

379 Thanos  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 11:57:28am replyquote

Oh, and yes, What Women Want is a chick flick, what man wants to see Mel in pantyhose?

380 Catttt  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 11:57:31am replyquote

372 zulubaby

He was a self-loathing Jew. He could be their poster boy. I think he wanted a totally non-Jewish girlfriend. I looked so Irish – then Yiddish came out of my mouth!

381 steve miller  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 11:57:50am replyquote

I love the clarinet solo in “Mr Holland’s Opus,” but it drives me crazy to hear “Play the sunset!”

PLAY the sunset? How ’bout I just WATCH the sunset?

382 zulubaby  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 11:58:15am replyquote

Thanos, I think so, I’m almost too scared to breath. LOL. Did you see my post #330?

383 solomonpanting  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 11:58:31am replyquote

#363 BenZacharia

Sorta like the French attempts to banish English/American words and phrases, non?
Yet, another similarity the French share with the ME. Freedom Fries, anyone?

384 Catttt  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 11:59:24am replyquote

379 Thanos

I’m almost certain there were globular clusters in those panty hose, too.

385 W-lover  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 12:00:34pm replyquote

Actually- I don’t remember the last Mel Gibson movie I saw.

Maybe The Patriot?

386 red meat conservative  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 12:01:22pm replyquote

Its ashame that the Palestinians and Hizbollah keep storming UN buildings. Don’t they have any appreciation for friends?

387 cbinflux  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 12:02:10pm replyquote

#378 infidella

Thanks. Looks like hours of interesting, informative reading.

388 zulubaby  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 12:02:41pm replyquote

IDF says 150 rockets were fired from Qana. When Israel strikes back, Chirac gets a case of the vapors.

President Jacques Chirac learned “with dismay of the act of violence that cost the lives of numerous innocent victims, notably woman and children, in Qana overnight,” his office said in a statement.

“France condemns this unjustifiable action, which shows more than ever the need to move toward an immediate cease-fire, without which other such dramas can only be repeated,” it said.

Repulsive.

389 Dave the…..  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 12:02:46pm replyquote

A bunch of us kiddies went to the drive-in Friday night. Sat out on chairs with our coolers of beer.

First movie, Pirates II was pretty good.

Second feature was “You Me and Dupree”. First third of it was a guy movie. Second third a chick movie. So I left before the last third (it was 1 AM).

390 ploome hineni[deleted]  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 12:04:05pm
391 Thanos  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 12:05:27pm replyquote

No, I missed that Z, still trying to work on an article that keeps blocking me up about the NYT… but good to see you are ok.

Yes, I would do a couple things when you get off tonight, start a disk defrag (should be under accessories , system tools.) This will make your disk work faster, and also find and repair any bad sectors.

then tomorrow do the online virus scan at f-secure
then do ms security patches
then do the spywareblaster thing.

Once all that’s done you should feel relatively safe. If no other thing, keep your MS security patches up.

392 W-lover  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 12:05:32pm replyquote

ploome-

LOLOL OH Hell NO!

Alan is an asshole.

393 zulubaby  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 12:05:53pm replyquote

Cattt, that’s really funny. His head must have been spinning.

Thanos,

Oh, and yes, What Women Want is a chick flick, what man wants to see Mel in pantyhose?

I’ll tell you this much — I don’t want to see any man in pantyhose, least of all Mel Gibson. What Women Want was a bloody terrible movie.

394 American Infidel[deleted]  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 12:07:37pm
395 BenZacharia  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 12:07:42pm replyquote

383 solomonpanting 7/30/2006 01:58PM PDT

#363 BenZacharia

Sorta like the French attempts to banish English/American words and phrases, non?
Yet, another similarity the French share with the ME. Freedom Fries, anyone?

I usually eat lunch at the Legion or VFW, and thats what ther menu says.

396 Iron Fist[deleted]  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 12:08:19pm
397 zulubaby  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 12:08:26pm replyquote

Thanos, IE is still giving me problems, but less so than before. I’ll do all those things you suggested. Thanks for helping me, I really appreciate it.

398 American Infidel[deleted]  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 12:08:27pm
399 ploome hineni[deleted]  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 12:08:37pm
400 Dave the…..  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 12:09:35pm replyquote

So now the terrorist can move around and resupply.

Yep, a cease-fire with a terrorist organization.

401 bruxellesblog  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 12:09:48pm replyquote

#363 BenZacharia

like the French attempts to banish English/American words and phrases, non?

I’m not sure if we have any Arabic scholars on the thread this evening, but I noticed watching a documentary a couple nights ago, that the word ‘Death’ in Arabic (which we hear so much in Death to America, death to the Jews, UK, etc etc etc) sounds similar to the Frech word for death, ‘Morte’ pronounced ‘more’.

Any insights?

402 cbinflux  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 12:09:49pm replyquote

Re: yiddish
I got a chuckle from and the cartoonist for our national Christain denomination was aghast at his use of schmuck, putz and similar in a series of childrens’ cartoons in a weekly publication.
I e-mailed him, and he had no idea that they were ‘cusswords’. Like many, he’d heard them all his life and roughly knew their meaning in context.
Bugger is another word often heard from folks who haven’t a clue.

403 Thanos  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 12:09:58pm replyquote

AI, link? Where are you seein that?

404 yehoshua  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 12:11:29pm replyquote

#251 Fjordman

What is happening in Europe is a continuation of the cult of death started by Hitler. The Islamists are the natural heirs of the Gestapo and SS henchmen. Islam in Europe, like Nazism, is characterized by gangsterism, thuggery, and irrational hatred of Jews.
You cannot compare today’s Islam with today’s Christianity. Christianity was once synonymous with Jew hatred but seems finally to have evolved beyond that, at least in many of its present forms.

405 brickthruplateglasswindow  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 12:13:06pm replyquote

#96 Iron Fist

I wonder if Hezb’allah will be participating in the ceasefire also?

406 BenZacharia  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 12:13:11pm replyquote

brux…

Nope, you got me confused with another on the cut and paste part. 🙂

407 American Infidel[deleted]  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 12:14:58pm
408 RedPepper  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 12:16:23pm replyquote

Speaking of Yiddish

Putz: see Olmert, Ehud …

409 Iron Fist[deleted]  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 12:16:32pm
410 bruxellesblog  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 12:16:52pm replyquote

yehoshua 7/30/2006 02:11PM PDT

What is happening in Europe is a continuation of the cult of death started by Hitler.

Given Hitler’s collaboration with Haj Amin al-Husseini, Grand Mufti of Jerusalem during WWII, until there is a true reformation in Islam, this will continue unabated.

411 Catttt  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 12:17:13pm replyquote

402 cbinflux

Lol.

That happened to me once at work at a very proper company. A guy used schmuck in a presentation, during a training session. Afterwards, I said – you know, that word might not be advisable – especially if you have conservative Jewish clients. Of course, it turned out I was the only one in the group who knew what it meant, and there were some red faces when I told them. Ahhh, memories.

412 Mike C.  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 12:17:44pm replyquote

The suspension of military activity is also all that’s on CNN Int. right now, including a statement by the IDF to that effect.

413 zulubaby  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 12:18:15pm replyquote

U.S.: Israel okays 48-hour halt in IAF raids in S. Lebanon to probe Qana strike (Reuters)

414 TotallySirius  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 12:18:32pm replyquote

#409 IF

Israel has only announced a 48 hour cessation of air operations.

415 American Infidel[deleted]  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 12:18:41pm
416 ploome hineni[deleted]  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 12:18:43pm
417 American Infidel[deleted]  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 12:19:52pm
418 Catttt  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 12:20:00pm replyquote

Jennifer Griffen’s source says it’s a 24 stop of air drops on Lebanon, for humanitarian reasons. Not 48.

419 Killgore Trout  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 12:21:21pm replyquote

Koskidz Konsider kristallnacht…
Is DailyKos under assault from the Israeli Foreign Ministry?

This would certainly explain some of the happenings around here. Some pro-Israeli posters on DailyKos have posted literaly thousands of messages in the last few days, some of them (you know who you are) in excess of 600 each.

This makes me wonder if DailyKos has indeed become a battlefield in the latest Israeli/Arab war, with some participants being actual combatants who are formally commanded by the governments of their respective nations or poltical forces.

And what are we to do about it? How are the rest of us to deal with this?

Yes, the overwhelming Pro-Israeli sentiment at Dkos has become intolerable. Perhaps some sort of Final Solution Ultimate Answer.
Rauss Juden!

420 MigueldowninMexico  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 12:22:20pm replyquote

Hello everybody!
God bless Israel!

421 Geepers  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 12:22:41pm replyquote

The English term buggery is very close in meaning to the term sodomy, and is often used interchangeably in law and popular speech. The word “bugger” is still commonly used in modern English but with a different emphasis of meaning. Originally, it was derived from the word “Bulgarian”, meaning the medieval Bulgarian sect of the Bogomils, which spread into Western Europe and was branded by the established church as particularly devoted to the practice of sodomy.

Buggery Act 1533

422 zulubaby  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 12:24:01pm replyquote

MDA: 69 Katyusha victims treated today

Annan urges Security Council to condemn Israeli attack on Qana

Annan repeated his call for an immediate end to hostilies. “Innocent life continues to be taken,” he said. “I repeat this call once again from this chamber and I appeal to the council to do likewise.”

He said the council had a responsibility to demand an end to the violence.

“We meet at a moment of extreme gravity first and foremost fo the people of the Middle East but also for the authority of this organization and especially this council,” Annan said. “Action is needed now before many more children, women and men become casualties of a conflict over which they have no control.”

By “innocent life”, he is not referring to the Israelis at all.

423 techno_barbarian  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 12:24:19pm replyquote

Haven’t had time to read the whole thread.

re: UN
Dissolved now. US out of UN and UN out of US.

Also:
Now FNC just reported that Israel has agreed to a 24 hour ceasefire for humanitarian reasons to give the people in southern Lebanon a chance to head further north.

Probably a ‘this is your last chance to leave before the ground invasion’ announcement.

Hey, I can hope can’t I?

424 Catttt  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 12:25:39pm replyquote

420 MigueldowninMexico

Hi back atcha. 🙂

425 Bob’s Kid  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 12:25:59pm replyquote

I dunno, maybe What Women Want would be a viable substitute?

It’s as good as any, because there’s plenty to debate. You ain’t never gonna answer the question, so…

426 zulubaby  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 12:26:02pm replyquote

IDF continues to call on southern Lebanon residents to head north

The IDF has continued to call on the general civilian population south of the Litani river in southern Lebanon to evacuate their homes and head north across the river.

The calls were made through local sources and Arab media outlets. The IDF said “this call was made for the personal safety of local residents, as south Lebanon is an active combat are and Hizbullah members are continuing to operate from within civilian population centers, exploiting civilians as a human shield.” (Ynet)

427 Iron Fist[deleted]  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 12:26:02pm
428 Ann  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 12:26:05pm replyquote

Is Hezb’Allah going to stop, too?

The Arabs are so good at honoring contracts.

429 mahatma coat  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 12:26:22pm replyquote

Annan-“for the authority of this organization and especially this council”
was that a joke?

430 cbinflux  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 12:27:24pm replyquote

Comrades
HILLARY CLINTON, MCCAIN HELD VODKA-DRINKING CONTEST…
Two summers ago, on a Congressional trip to Estonia, Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton astonished her traveling companions by suggesting that the group do what one does in the Baltics: hold a vodka-drinking contest.
“What happens in Estonia stays in Estonia,”
NYTimes

431 zulubaby  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 12:28:27pm replyquote

Israel agrees 48-hr aerial activity ban – U.S. Official

Israel has agreed to suspend its aerial bombardment of southern Lebanon for 48 hours, starting immediately, to allow for an investigation into Sunday’s bombing that killed 54 civilians, a US State Department official said on Monday.

Israel will also coordinate with the United Nations to allow a 24-hour window for residents of southern Lebanon to leave the area if they wish, State Department spokesman Adam Ereli told a briefing in Jerusalem. (Reuters)

432 MigueldowninMexico  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 12:29:42pm replyquote

Cattt
🙂

433 Thanos  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 12:29:44pm replyquote

Hola Miguel!

Hey everyone, is this too over the top or just stupid writing, need a second opinion, something about it is bugging me:

I know that whole constellation of Islamofascist terror groups is hard to keep straight, but it’s easier if you segregate them into two camps: There are the Sunni/Wahabbist sects, Al Qaeda, Taliban, Muslim Brotherhood, etc. usually comprised of Arabic or Pashtun people, and there are the Shiite Hezbollah, sects, usually comprised of Shiites, Persians, Hazara. Right now there seems to be some back and forth positioning for lead between the two. It was bound to happen, as we have eradicated most of the firebrands from the Sunni side of the street, the Shia side has picked up the torch to badly torture two metaphors.

434 mahatma coat  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 12:29:45pm replyquote

apparently 48 hour halt on air strikes AND 24 hours humanitarian relief…I don’t like this development

435 Catttt  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 12:30:27pm replyquote

State Department is saying 48 hour air suspension of air war, per Fox. IDF people, per Jennifer Griffin, have no word on that yet, and her Israeli source said 24 hours.

Jennifer predicts Hez will break the window. I do too.

436 TotallySirius  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 12:31:21pm replyquote

Israel says the cease-fire will be held in abayance if Hizb fires any rockets or makes any aggressive moves during the next 24 hours.

437 Catttt  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 12:32:12pm replyquote

#431 zulubaby

Ahhh. Ok.

438 mbruce  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 12:32:16pm replyquote

So is this becoming the adhoc open thread for Sun afternoon?
anyway, I was wanting to go see either “the Oh in Ohio” ( Parker Posey yum) or “Strangers With Candy” ( even though Colbert is in it) but the only place they are playing anywhere near me is in Berzerkey. I just cannot bring myself to go into that nest of moonbats,guess I will just wait for the DVDs.

440 bobgranholm  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 12:34:52pm replyquote

greetings from alberta.

so, here is a question for the collective wisdom of the LGF crowd.

I was asked a question in church today that I didn’t really have a satisfactory answer to- at least, I was not satisfied with my own answer.

The question is:

What makes Hezbullah types so numb to the suffering of others? What kind of collective depravity would actually wage war from the midst of children, knowing what the probable outcome was- as events have proved. What kind of mental calculus goes on which justifies this? This is more than just the cruelty of war. Even animals do not act this way. It is not just creating convenient propaganda to rally the faithful; it is the negation of of the concept of humanity, for it is wishing death and destruction upon your own community for the sake of a hopelessly impossible goal. What words describe this?

441 Killgore Trout  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 12:36:37pm replyquote

#435 Cattt
I think you’re right; Hezbollah will break the truce, Israel will respond and The UN and LLL will cry about the Joos preventing the humanitarian mission.

442 techno_barbarian  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 12:37:06pm replyquote

#440 bobgranholm

Only one word.

islam

443 W-lover  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 12:37:50pm replyquote

416 ploome-

It’s a Zionist conspiricy! Bwaahaahaa!

444 Thanos  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 12:38:17pm replyquote

greetings from alberta.

so, here is a question for the collective wisdom of the LGF crowd.

I was asked a question in church today that I didn’t really have a satisfactory answer to- at least, I was not satisfied with my own answer.

The question is:

What makes Hezbullah types so numb to the suffering of others? What kind of collective depravity would actually wage war from the midst of children, knowing what the probable outcome was- as events have proved. What kind of mental calculus goes on which justifies this? This is more than just the cruelty of war. Even animals do not act this way. It is not just creating convenient propaganda to rally the faithful; it is the negation of of the concept of humanity, for it is wishing death and destruction upon your own community for the sake of a hopelessly impossible goal. What words describe this?

This one is simple to me, explain to them that they are trying to understand an “Old Testament” people with a New Testament outlook.
Tell them to think old testament if they truly wish to understand.

445 techno_barbarian  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 12:38:59pm replyquote

Countdown before hizb’allah and the entire islamic world claims victory over Israel in… 3, 2, 1…

446 bweep  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 12:39:14pm replyquote

The BBC Panorama program is lifting the lid on Hamas. You’ll like this. You’ll like it a lot. I just tried the live video stream. It was down. Try giving it another go later.

447 MigueldowninMexico  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 12:39:47pm replyquote

Hi Thanos! 🙂

448 Yank in the EU  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 12:41:17pm replyquote

Fjordman asks: is it time to say Farewell to the United Nations?

Yes, that’s a fantastic idea.

The US should declare on Monday that it is leaving the UN, and, oh, they can move the headquarters to Cairo or Dubai.

The Admininstration should not make a big deal about it; they can even let all the press people know about it a few hours ahead of time.

At the press conference, the president will simply lay out a list of 7 or 8 of the most repugnant and immoral actions done by the UN, and after that declare that the US is leaving the UN “in order to begin to restore in the contemporary world the notions of international law and morality.”

The points would be something like (1) the complicity of the UN on the side of Hizb’allah in the current war (2) the massive scandals in which money was stolen from the Iraqi people by the Annan family (3) the failure to enforce resolutions 1559, etc. etc.

It’s been grand chatting with Syria, Libya, France and all the rest, but it’s not working out. Let’s get it over and done with. We’ll make our own deals and diplomatic arrangements from now on.

449 TotallySirius  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 12:41:49pm replyquote

CNN is running eyewitness reports from Qana.

Something kind of odd about the supposed “civilians”,the only ones talking are military aged men and half were wearing camos.

Hmmm?

450 bobgranholm  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 12:42:17pm replyquote

I don’t think so thanos. Where in the OT do you see this kind of cynical misuse of your own people? As bloody as things got in the battles, there was never this level of sacrificing of children for a ’cause’.

451 Ann  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 12:42:31pm replyquote

#440 bobgranholm

What makes Hezbullah types so numb to the suffering of others? What kind of collective depravity would actually wage war from the midst of children, knowing what the probable outcome was- as events have proved. What kind of mental calculus goes on which justifies this? This is more than just the cruelty of war. Even animals do not act this way. It is not just creating convenient propaganda to rally the faithful; it is the negation of of the concept of humanity, for it is wishing death and destruction upon your own community for the sake of a hopelessly impossible goal. What words describe this?

Islam in its purest form is devoid of joy. Suffering, death and the endurance and continuation of the rule of shari’a is all that matters.

Islam turns its true believers into machines.

And the imams gain power.

452 MigueldowninMexico  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 12:42:45pm replyquote

Ok got to go now. God bless everybody and specially ISRAEL.
See ya’ll later 😉

453 bweep  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 12:42:53pm replyquote

Two Arabs boarded a flight out of London. One took a window seat and
the other sat next to him in the middle seat. Just before takeoff, an
American sat down in the aisle seat.

After takeoff, the American kicked his shoes off, wiggled his toes and
was settling in when the Arab in the window seat said, I need to get up
and get a coke.

“Don’t get up.” Said the American “I’m in the aisle seat. I’ll get it
for you.”

As soon as he left, one of the Arabs picked up the American’s shoe and
spat in it.

When he returned with the coke, the other Arab said, “That looks good,
I’d really like one, too.” Again, the American obligingly went to fetch
it. While he was gone, the other Arab picked up his other shoe and spat
in it. When the American returned, they all sat back and enjoyed the
flight. As the plane was landing, the American slipped his feet into
his shoes and knew immediately what had happened.

“Why does it have to be this way?” he asked. “How long must this go on?
This fighting between our nations? This hatred? This animosity? This
spitting in shoes and pissing in cokes?”

***

It was the first day of school and a new student named Pedro Martinez,
the son of a Mexican restaurateur, entered the fourth grade.

The teacher said, “Let’s begin by reviewing some American history. “Who
said ‘Give me Liberty, or give me Death?’ ”
She saw a sea of blank faces, except for Pedro, who had his hand up.
“Patrick Henry, 1775.”

“Very good!” apprised the teacher. “Now, who said, “Government of the
people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth?”
Again, no response except from Pedro: “Abraham Lincoln, 1863.”

The teacher snapped at the class, “Class, you should be ashamed! Pedro,
who is new to our country, knows more about its history than you do!”

She heard a loud whisper: “Screw the Mexicans!”
“Who said that?” she demanded.
Pedro put his hand up. “Jim Bowie, 1836.”

At that point, a student in the back said, “I’m gonna puke.”
The teacher glared and asked, “All right! Now, who said that?” Again,
Pedro answered, “George Bush to the Japanese Prime Minister, 1991.”

Now furious, another student yelled, “Oh yeah? Suck this!” Pedro jumped
out of his chair waving his hand and shouting to the teacher, “Bill
Clinton to Monica Lewinsky, 1997!”

Now, with almost a mob hysteria, teacher said, “You little shit. If you
say anything else, I’ll kill you!” Pedro frantically yelled at the top
of his voice, “Gary Condit to Chandra Levy, 2001.”

The teacher fainted, and as the class gathered around her on the floor,
someone said, “Oh shit, we’re in BIG trouble now!” Pedro whispered,
“Saddam Hussein, 2003.”

Finally someone throws a eraser at Pedro, someone shouted “Duck”!
Teacher, just waking, asked “Who said that?
Pedro: Dick Cheney 2006!

454 Dave the…..  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 12:43:00pm replyquote

Bobgranholm…

I’d say their hatred of the Jew trumps all. Charles has very well documented the brainwashing that starts soon after birth. That they must kill all Jews. Actually all infidels, but especially the Hebrew people.

What makes a mother send her kids with a bomb belt to murder people?

455 republic  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 12:44:27pm replyquote

#440 bobgranholm

What makes Hezbullah types so numb to the suffering of others? What kind of collective depravity would actually wage war from the midst of children, knowing what the probable outcome was- as events have proved. What kind of mental calculus goes on which justifies this? This is more than just the cruelty of war. Even animals do not act this way. It is not just creating convenient propaganda to rally the faithful; it is the negation of of the concept of humanity, for it is wishing death and destruction upon your own community for the sake of a hopelessly impossible goal. What words describe this?

I seriously don’t mean this answer to be sarcastic, but given that all islamic terrorists belive in, and practice islam, and claim that muhommad is directing them, I’d have to say in one word,

islam.

456 zulubaby  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 12:44:37pm replyquote

The ammo is being held up anyway.

By ASSOCIATED PRESS
ABOARD PRIME MINISTER TONY BLAIR’S PLANE

Is that really necessary?

457 W-lover  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 12:45:01pm replyquote

bobgranholm-

“I did many things as a Muslim that I’m sorry for now. I was a zombie then- like all Muslims- I was hypnotized, pointed in a certain direction and told to march.”

Malcom X

458 rinkus  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 12:46:12pm replyquote

I know this is off-topic;

I’m trying to start up a blog. Anyone know any good resources on how to get started? What is the best site to begin on, etc?

(Caveat: I don’t know if Charles doesn’t appreciate advertising your blog on the comments. Apologies if so.)

If anyone is in the beginning stage of a blog, would you like to post the address so I can see what a blog should look like in its puberty stage?

Thanks for the help you silly lizardoids you.

459 brickthruplateglasswindow  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 12:47:07pm replyquote

#440 bobgranholm
it is the negation of of the concept of humanity, for it is wishing death and destruction upon your own community for the sake of a hopelessly impossible goal. What words describe this?

Afternoon, Bob.

2 words. Moral vacuum.

I believe any other explanation is an exercise in mental masturbation.

People are human beings. As such, we have the power of free will as endowed by our Creator. The power to choose. Behavior is a conscious choice. Behave in a benevolent or malevolent manner. It’s a choice. Simply Good vs. Evil…but then again, I’m a simple guy and could be wrong. 🙂

460 Iron Fist[deleted]  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 12:47:30pm
461 zulubaby  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 12:47:32pm replyquote

If ever there was a day where I would like to say farewill to the United Nations, it’s today.

I despise Kofi Annan and his blatant bigotry, racism and anti-Semitism. That the world listens to this evil bastard makes me sick.

462 Dirk Diggler  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 12:48:48pm replyquote

Now FNC just reported that Israel has agreed to a 24 hour ceasefire for humanitarian reasons to give the people in southern Lebanon a chance to head further north.

I’m sure Hizb’Allah will reciprocate with a 24-hour cessation of firing rockets on northern Israel.

/snort

463 Ann  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 12:50:32pm replyquote

hizballah” spell checks to “hairball”, as reaganite just found out!

LOL!

464 DP111  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 12:51:05pm replyquote

Breaking

JERUSALEM – Israel has agreed to a 48-hour suspension of aerial activity in south Lebanon while it investigates an attack on a Lebanese village that killed a number of children, U.S. State Department spokesman Adam Ereli said Sunday.

[Link: news.yahoo.com…]

465 Spiny Norman  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 12:51:51pm replyquote

#462 Dirk Diggler

Now FNC just reported that Israel has agreed to a 24 hour ceasefire for humanitarian reasons to give the people in southern Lebanon a chance to head further north.

I’m sure Hizb’Allah will reciprocate with a 24-hour cessation of firing rockets on northern Israel.

/snort

They’ll launch an additional 100 or so in celebration.

466 zulubaby  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 12:52:21pm replyquote

Lebanese MP: 15 children killed in Qana were disabled (AFP)

If that’s to be believed, why would they leave those children in the middle of a war zone? These people are truly demonic.

467 baier  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 12:53:26pm replyquote

Israel agrees to cease fire.

Please, someone tell me I’m wrong and say Israel has the will to do what needs to be done and this is just some strategy I don’t understand…

Good intentions pave the road to hell…

468 TotallySirius  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 12:53:35pm replyquote

Will Hizbullah use this 24 hours cease-fire to investigate the 69 civilians injured by Katyusha rockets today?

*crickets*

469 ciaospirit  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 12:54:31pm replyquote

#180 Nordish 12

Nice shootin’!

Those Jewish guys looked pretty isolated. How come no Palis or other Muslims were standing arm in arm with their Jewish comrades?

470 W-lover  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 12:55:36pm replyquote

baier-

Ok- I’ll say it-

You’re wrong and Israel has the will to do what needs to be done and this is just some strategy you don’t understand…

471 SwampWoman  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 12:55:43pm replyquote

#458 rinkus

I’m trying to start up a blog. Anyone know any good resources on how to get started? What is the best site to begin on, etc?

Lots of people start on blogger or motime, free sites.

472 TotallySirius  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 12:56:04pm replyquote

I’ve got a bad feeling about this.

Israel is making a big mistake IMO.

473 chazmo  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 12:56:26pm replyquote

48 hours eh…well there is always Baseball

474 ironbill  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 12:57:04pm replyquote

Israels humanity will be greeted with anger and derision. I know this sounds obscene but in sports when you have your opponent down… You finish the job. The enemies of Israel grant her no quarter; Give none in return.

475 Spiny Norman  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 12:57:04pm replyquote

#466 zulubaby

If it is to be believed. Heh! Their bullshit sob story propaganda is getting so deep, we all need hipwaders.

There is definitely a reason Hizballah launches their fucking rockets from residential areas. They WANT Lebanese civilians to die become martyrs…

476 baier  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 12:57:07pm replyquote

Prime Minister Ehud Olmert is weak as water…weak as water…

477 a.k.a. Will  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 12:57:12pm replyquote

#176 Poitiers-Lepanto

And in Paris we all know about the open season of white-hunt during the riots of the “youths”. I have read the French Resistance blogs for weeks and the stories were beyond the darkest imagination…

I suppose all the French Resistance blogs are in French? If any are in English, do you have links? Thanks.

478 cbinflux  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 12:57:14pm replyquote

Does the Supreme Lizard file a flight plan? Should we send a search party..?

479 brickthruplateglasswindow  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 12:57:36pm replyquote

#466 zulubaby

Lebanese MP: 15 children killed in Qana were disabled

..from carrying out their own future attacks against the IDF.

Just wanted to finish that sentence.

480 hiker  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 12:58:18pm replyquote

Israel agrees to a cease fire? The islamoscum already have their talking points about how this is a great victory for islam and a crushing defeat for Israel. The MSM will parrot those talking points and the islamoscum will just be emboldened all the more.

I am sitting here just shaking my head. The West is sure as hell acting like it has no stomach for a fight, and the islamoscum see that clearly.

481 Ann  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 12:58:59pm replyquote

#466 zulubaby

15 children killed in Qana were disabled (AFP)

The victimization embellishment just keeps getting better!

So does a kid get disabled classification when the wheelchair and/or crutches are found next to the little crippled body?

Or were they disabled because they were stuck in that building?

482 Iron Fist[deleted]  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 12:59:00pm
483 Thanos  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 12:59:55pm replyquote

Bob, It is Old Testament, ala the previous comment regarding Islam.

Remember in the Old Testament G*d is very demanding, and greatly to be feared. Now extend that with the Koran, and then the fact that all are slaves to Allah, extend that to the worth of human life when balanced against what you think Allah might want, there you have it.

484 mahatma coat  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 1:00:15pm replyquote

how could there be any cessation without getting there soldiers back!I’m gettin’ right pissed off…I would have thought Israel should be somewhat used to negative world opinion,being right is often a lonely position …whats that quote about a confederacy of dunces ?

485 W-lover  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 1:01:06pm replyquote

I’m guessing this “cease fire” will last a few hours. It’s off if Hizbullah fires anything. How long do you think Hizbullah can’t hold off killing Israelis?

5…4…3…

486 baier  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 1:02:20pm replyquote

#485 W-lover

Yoiu know that a cease fire only includes Israel in the eyes of the UN and the media…

487 Abigail Adams  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 1:02:27pm replyquote

#354 solomonpanting-
“What’s Persion for incoming”

Thanks a lot for that spit on the monitor moment LMAO 🙂

488 Thanos  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 1:02:50pm replyquote

What will happen is this: the hez will stop firing, the Hamas front will go aflame again. (Hamas already scored a hit today btw.)

489 W-lover  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 1:03:03pm replyquote

PIMF- can’t s/b can.

490 zulubaby  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 1:03:30pm replyquote

baier, looks like there’s a lot of wishful thinking going on. It’s not a cease-fire, the IAF is suspending bombing to give the residents in south Lebanon time to haul ass, and to investigate the bombing in Qana.

I still think it’s madness.

Has Rice left Israel yet?

491 mahatma coat  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 1:05:01pm replyquote

true its not a ceasefire,but ground troops require air support

492 Nim Chimpsky  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 1:05:17pm replyquote

The news that Israel is declaring a ceasefire is thoroughly depressing. Not because I want more dead people, but becuase it signifies that the Hezbos (and Hamas and assorted Iraqi crazies) have hit on a winning formula: they know that the west will not wage total war. Unconventional war, i.e., no uniforms, hiding among civilians, having the western press behing them, etc. will wear down their enemies, and perhaps conquer them. I asked a WW II vet friend of mine if we could ever fight a war like that again. We both thought for a moment and simultaneously said, “no.”

493 baier  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 1:06:13pm replyquote

490 zulubaby

Yeah, Rice left. I hope you’re right.

494 GT2_Oasis 14  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 1:06:55pm replyquote

Another reason for urgent suspension: Kofi Anal is probably all upset that angry mobs are pillaging his nice UN offices – what’s the downside of that, anyway?

495 lawhawk  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 1:07:55pm replyquote

GRRR. The Israelis are willing to have a 48 hour IAF bombing pause. Gee, wonder how many rocket and equipment convoys will get through under the eyes in the skies, all while the UN only acts when Israel retaliates against terrorists operating in civilian clothes, in civilian areas, and uses those civilians as human shields and cannon fodder.

This is a huge mistake, and Hizbullah is certain to exploit it. I know I’d try to exploit it if I were in Hizbullah’s shoes.

There’s no word on whether Hizbullah provided a rocket pause.

I have a real bad feeling about this.

Updates are here.

496 W-lover  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 1:08:21pm replyquote

baier-

What I heard on the msm [spit] was it’s over if hizzi strikes again.

Who cares what the UN and msm think or see.

Israel said the cease fire is over if Hizzi strikes durring it. And I believe them.

497 Stuck-in-CA  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 1:09:37pm replyquote

In my opinion we should remain a member of the UN just to cause them trouble on the Security Council, but we should definitely throw them the hell out of the country and stop funding them.

498 Catttt  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 1:10:45pm replyquote

485 W-lover

Since Hezbollah fires only during the day, I give them until morning. It’s currently about 1 a.m. there. Sunrise is at 5:48 a.m.

I’m going to go out on a limb and say six hours.

499 zulubaby  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 1:14:41pm replyquote

In my opinion we should remain a member of the UN just to cause them trouble on the Security Council, but we should definitely throw them the hell out of the country and stop funding them.

Truth is, I’d be awfully worried if the US left the UN. It’s the only sane voice there. However, I still think the entire organization should be dismantled, the sooner the better.

500 Haiku  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 1:14:56pm replyquote

This doesn not sound good. Israel is apologzing and halting air strikes which make them look guilty even though the terrible incident is starting to look like a set-up.
Israel has thrown in the towel and the Islamofacists won. This is a sad day for all the good and decent people in the world.

501 Thanos  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 1:15:31pm replyquote

#458 start here at wordpress, try their free blog out a bit. If you like it, then maybe go to wordpress.org and get a host to run your own open source blog.

502 Thanos  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 1:16:40pm replyquote

#458 PIMF… here’s the link to wordpress.com

503 Sarah D.  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 1:17:43pm replyquote

#500 Haiku

Israel has thrown in the towel and the Islamofacists won. This is a sad day for all the good and decent people in the world.

And you know this how?

504 Abigail Adams  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 1:17:52pm replyquote

If Hezbollah breaks the cease-fire, and I think they will,the temptation to kill more Jews will prove much too strong,then Israel will have the excuse it needs (not that I think they need one) to go all out against them.
Israel will be able to point at Hezbollah and say “see, this is why we have to destroy them all”.
Purely for show but hey, whatever works…

505 Stuck-in-CA  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 1:17:55pm replyquote

499- zulubaby

I agree. God only knows what insane resolutions they would pass if we weren’t there to stop them. Not that they have ever enforced one of their resolutions. Talk about an inept and ineffectual bunch of idiots! But we have to stop paying for this bullsh*t! And that prime land in NYC could be used for much more beneficial purposes.

506 zulubaby  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 1:21:47pm replyquote

Haiku,

Israel has thrown in the towel and the Islamofacists won.

Israel has agreed to suspend aerial bombings for 24 or 48 hours, depending on who you’re listening to. The Islamofascists are begging for a cease-fire. Don’t get carried away.

507 brickthruplateglasswindow  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 1:22:43pm replyquote

Trying to summate for a fellow @ work who is just starting “get it.” Specifically, why the Left’s position of negotiation with terrorists is futile.

I posit this…Terrorists are trustworthy, or they’re not. They’ll always kill non-combatants but that’s for another time.

If they’re trustworty by saying they hope for the total destruction of the West and that’s their stated goal, where is the “acceptable compromise?” Do we settle on, they can destroy 1/2 the West and call it a deal?

or..

If they’re not trustworthy, what’s the realistic expectation that any negotiated “deal” will be honored in the first place?

With neither outcome acceptable, the suggested course of action is logically null and void.

He’s an otherwise decent guy…just not entirely clued in, yet.

508 zulubaby  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 1:24:22pm replyquote

Stuck-in-CA, I do not see the purpose of the UN. Not at all. But the US still needs to be there to keep the lunatics from going completely over the edge.

509 bobgranholm  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 1:25:12pm replyquote

thanks for those who posted some thoughts regarding my question. I don’t really feel like the question was answered to my satisfaction but thanks for the interaction!

I think W lover came closest to the real issue- she quoted malcom x, was called himself a ‘zombie’. Zombies were dead people possessed by an evil spirit.

Which is the closest I can come to an answer- and indeed the one I gave to the question. We live in a world were there is a truly evil spiritual reality- called the kingdom of darkness in the Bible. This evil is anti-human, seeking to degrade as much as possible the god-likeness in each of us. Islam is energized by such spiritual evil.

It does not really answer the question as to why we give ourselves to such evil, but it does explain its existence.

510 galloping granny  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 1:26:23pm replyquote

#440 so, here is a question for the collective wisdom of the LGF crowd.

Since this is a church crowd that asked you the question, let me give you a church answer:

Luke 21:
7 “Teacher,” they asked, “when will these things happen? And what will be the sign that they are about to take place?”

8 He replied: “Watch out that you are not deceived. For many will come in my name, claiming, ‘I am he,’ and, ‘The time is near.’ Do not follow them.
Many years ago a friend of mine, one who considered himself a Christian of the evangelical persuasion, was going through a very hard time in his life, including a divorce. For many weeks he would call me daily to tell me that he had had a message from the L_rd, a vision if you will.

Invariably this message concerned the woman that my friend was to have in his life, the one that G_d marked out for him. Now and then he even got several messages in a single day. There was something funny about all these messages though – each one seemed to name a different woman to be my friend’s “future wife” than the message before. Sometimes his ex, sometimes a woman he knew, sometimes someone that he just saw walking down the street.

At first I murmered something negligible and did my best to ignore the aberration. After all, my friend did not exhibit the first symptom of mental illness/disturbance other than these visions. As time passed, I grew more concerned and gently tried to get him to question what was happening.

One day after many months of these daily visions something inspired me to ask him HOW G_d was sending him these messages. He replied that “angels” were bringing them. And for some reason or other I thought to ask him just what these “angels” looked like. He told me that they looked like stars. And that inspired me to look to see if the Bible ever referred to angels as “stars.” It does.

In every case that I could find – and yes, I used a Concordance – each and every time that the Bible (Jewish or Christian) referred to angels as “stars” it was speaking of fallen “angels,” spirits in league with Satan.

You might recall that there is another verse in the Bible quite similar to the one I quoted above. It says something very similar and goes on to say that at the end of times, those who did not belong to G_d would believe a lie, a lie so powerful that even the very elect might be decieved, if such a thing were possible.

So, my answer to you is that these people who calmly send their children out in bomb belts to murder others in the name of their god are laboring under the greatest delusion that has ever been. Like my friend, they are sure that they are following the very word of G_d in all his righteousness. There is only one problem with their belief: They are worshipping the wrong G_d!

511 Stuck-in-CA  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 1:31:26pm replyquote

Israel might consider rounding up some bodies that have recently died from natural causes and strew them near one of the Hezballah rocket craters to make the Hezzies look even worse (if that’s possible). That’s what Hezballah does. Oh wait…Hezballah actually blows up their buildings with their own people in them in order to blame it on Israel. Nice.

No one is evil enough to out-unscruple the Islamos.

512 W-lover  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 1:32:32pm replyquote

509 Bob-

I’ve used that quote often. To me it explains a lot, and it means something coming from the mouth of a famous ex-muslim.

I love the word “hypnotized” in that quote.

513 bobgranholm  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 1:35:12pm replyquote

granny: kinda where I was going, eh?

Since I am the pastor, I needed to have a good answer, but as i say, it still leaves lots unexplained.

w lover:

keep using it! from the horses mouth…

514 transferthem  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 1:42:03pm replyquote

I haven’t read the article. But I have advocated dumping the evil un for years. Every laudible principle upon which it was founded has been stood on its head and apat upon. It ruthlessly discriminates against Israel whilst ignoring huge humanitarian disasters such as Rwanda and Sudan. It is evil evil evil evil evil evil evil evil evil evil evil evil evil evil evil evil evil evil evil evil evil evil evil evil evil evil evil.

515 ploome hineni[deleted]  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 1:47:01pm
516 Abigail Adams  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 1:51:00pm replyquote

Well Marwan here is hoping you are sent to hell very soon

517 ploome hineni[deleted]  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 1:51:08pm
518 Catttt  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 1:57:04pm replyquote

510 galloping granny

Excellent insight – thank you. For some reason, I am reminded of this:

Matthew 7:15-16: Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?

And

Matthew 25:35: For I was an hungred, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in.

519 J.D.  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 1:57:17pm replyquote

#440 bob granholm
Brainwashed.

520 W-lover  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 1:59:01pm replyquote

Marwan- another hypnotized zombie…

F*ck you, Marwan.

521 ploome hineni[deleted]  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 2:00:14pm
522 ploome hineni[deleted]  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 2:04:47pm
523 ploome hineni[deleted]  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 2:06:24pm
524 ibmkeyboard  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 2:06:49pm replyquote

M

Great idea for swimming pool.

lol

525 ploome hineni[deleted]  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 2:06:59pm
526 Stuck-in-CA  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 2:07:01pm replyquote

521- ploome

…what motivates a group of people, arabs,to so dessperately need to humiliate others?

If your entire culture contributed NOTHING to mankind in the last 1000 years, no progress, no art, no science, no nothing (unless you count suicide vests) you would feel insecure too.

527 ploome hineni[deleted]  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 2:07:42pm
528 W-lover  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 2:08:49pm replyquote

My cousin was taught, from the time she could talk, that her forehead was called “chicken”. It was a family joke…until she went to her first day of school. Her teacher did not find it as funny as the family did.

My point- when you are told nothing but lies, you believe nothing but lies.

Islam is a lie.

529 BenZacharia  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 2:16:16pm replyquote

527 ploome hineni 7/30/2006 04:07PM PDT

I think I got it, the arabs moslems are really african bees

All swarm and sting and no sweet reward for your trouble.

530 galloping granny  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 2:23:55pm replyquote

#513 bobgranholm – Since I am the pastor, I needed to have a good answer, but as i say, it still leaves lots unexplained.

Since you use the title “pastor” I assume that you are Protestant, so let me give you a few background thoughts from that perspective that might flesh out an explaination.

From a Protestant perspective, G_d gives us free will to choose our own path. G_d is also omniscient, meaning that he knows what choices we will make before we make it, or perhaps before we are ever born (names written in the book of life before the world was created.)

I have known many people who have trouble rectifying those two statements. How can we have free will if G_d already knows our choices? I liken it to a parent who knows full well that when offering their child a choice between carrots and french fries, the kid is going to choose french fries every time – but offers the carrots anyway.

G_d assures us that he will never abandon those who belong to him and that he knows every one of our names. And he also tells us that many would come claiming to be Jesus or claiming to be G_d himself – and he warns us that they would be lying.

What we are seeing is the wheat being separated from the chaff. Belief in the true G_d, whatever religious label that you choose to put on yourself or claim to belong to, immunizes against belief in the lie.

See Genesis – the first thing that G_d tells us all about satan is that he is a liar and the father of lies.

531 goodbye_natalie  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 2:33:25pm replyquote

#440 Bob,

I would tell you what you are witnessing now is only history repeating itself. The Muslims, as gruesome as they appear, are no more evil than many of the ancient cultures who would take their newborn and sacrifice them to Baal.

Babylon, Assyrians, Greece, Nazis have all been equally cruel.

The Roman Empire would take Christians, Jews, and the insurrection leaders and crucify them along the road for all to see, feed them to wild animals, burn them at the stake, etc…and consider it sport in the Colosseum.

I could go on. But I will tell you this. In every case, God has eventually wiped them from the pages of history.

Ecclesiastes 1:9
What has been will be again, what has been done will be done again; there is nothing new under the sun.

532 Stuck-in-CA  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 2:41:01pm replyquote

David Bogner’s is one of the clearest visions on how to handle the likes of Hezballah and Hamas. This tale brings things into clear focus.

[Link: bogieworks.blogs.com…]

533 goodbye_natalie  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 2:41:25pm replyquote

Bob,

Guess I could have answered with this as well:

2nd Timothy 3:1-9

But mark this: There will be terrible times in the last days. People will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boastful, proud, abusive, disobedient to their parents, ungrateful, unholy, without love, unforgiving, slanderous, without self-control, brutal, not lovers of the good, treacherous, rash, conceited, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God— having a form of godliness but denying its power. Have nothing to do with them.
They are the kind who worm their way into homes and gain control over weak-willed women, who are loaded down with sins and are swayed by all kinds of evil desires, always learning but never able to acknowledge the truth. Just as Jannes and Jambres opposed Moses, so also these men oppose the truth—men of depraved minds, who, as far as the faith is concerned, are rejected. But they will not get very far because, as in the case of those men, their folly will be clear to everyone.

534 big L  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 3:03:49pm replyquote

My vote would be first for a clean out of he U.S. State Dept apparatchiks.

Then the EU has gotta go. It is rickety anyway, bums.
Terror supporters and funders, and chair warmers.

Then the city of NY has to re-do streets areoundthe UN and forces them to go to Geneva fo mtgs.

535 ploome hineni[deleted]  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 3:23:51pm
536 hiker  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 3:24:19pm replyquote

#506 zulubaby

Israel should not be agreeing to a cease fire; it should be demanding unconditional surrender.

537 Carridine  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 3:42:30pm replyquote

When the human embryo develops, there is a group of useless, place-holder cells (pronephros) that does nothing other than save a place for the useless tissue structure which replaces it, (mesonephros) which serves the human body only when it is REPLACED by the true nephros, the true kidney!

THEN the organization of cells and tissues REMOVES POISON from the human body, and purifies its life-giving blood.

We rid ourselves of the pro-nephros LN. Its time to rid ourselves of the meso-nephrotic UN.

Humankind needs something like the Universal House of Justice…

538 Bruin  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 4:13:57pm replyquote

Excellent editorial, Fjordman. Spot on and well thought out.

The UN as it is now, is not salvageable. Good-bye!

539 Ackomanyuki  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 4:21:58pm replyquote

Carridine,

“Humankind needs something like the Universal House of Justice…”

What we need is accountability and transparency in our Goverments. The UHJ is only accountable to G-d, and unquestioning obedience to its edicts are demanded of its subjects.

How do you square being a Libetarian with your admiration for The World Order of Baha u llah and its Institutions?

I am not trying to be confrontational. This is a sincere question from someone who spent several years engaging in an ‘unfettered investigation’ of the Bahai Faith.

540 mattm  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 6:28:12pm replyquote

The time to dich the UN happened long ago.

541 nofreelunch  Sun, Jul 30, 2006 7:37:11pm replyquote

YES, YES, a thousand times YES. It was a worthless organization when conceived, and has gone downhill ever since.

542 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Mon, Jul 31, 2006 7:27:16am

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  1. Post 362 by Real West says it all, RealWest was concered with f’head Charles on his ??(if real) bike rides, Realwestern worries about Charles on a bike ride,

    Then Charles bans realwest for talking to the baned without a hall pass from the chief thug liberal ass hole of the world.

    spit

  2. ThreeHundred says:

    #321 Thanos (with respect to John Bolton): “If you haven’t done so already, please take a moment to jot an email to your congress critters stating firmly that you want him confirmed without any bullcrap this time.”

    I wonder what Thano’s buds at the swamp today would think of that…

  3. ThreeHundred says:

    #441 Killgore Trout: “Hezbollah will break the truce, Israel will respond and The UN and LLL will cry about the Joos preventing the humanitarian mission.”

    You mean KT in the past might actually have spoken in support of Israel??!!

  4. MrPaulRevere says:

    Someone please tweet this to Thanos and make him choke on it:

    Thanos Sun, Jul 30, 2006 7:59:36am replyquote

    •0
    •down
    •up
    •report

    #21 Thanks for the excellent analysis and writing Fjordman, I also linked to the Brussels Journal article this am, it is very well done.

  5. Ricardo Multiban says:

    Hey, there’s nothing to hide. But if you’re caught looking for it, you’re banned!

  6. Bagua says:

    Definitely a very different blog in 2006.

    Getting caught up with these fjordman threads, not so easy to deny the past when it is preserved for all to see.

  7. Bagua says:

    Meanwhile… heavy rioting going on in several parts of London. Looting mashing the place up.

  8. garycooper says:

    This is just precious, Chen-Man. Love looking over the old good stuff, without having to deal with the old bad website and its shitty programming.

    Choke on it, Fatass. Own it all, and choke on it all. 😆

    P.S. You were a much better human being, then.

  9. garycooper says:

    Bagua :Meanwhile… heavy rioting going on in several parts of London. Looting mashing the place up.

    EDL, no doubt. You bastards!

  10. Zeus Crankypants says:

    Charles Johnson… the go to anti-jihad blogger… (from the above thread)…

    Bobgranholm…

    I’d say their hatred of the Jew trumps all. Charles has very well documented the brainwashing that starts soon after birth. That they must kill all Jews. Actually all infidels, but especially the Hebrew people.What makes a mother send her kids with a bomb belt to murder people?

    Can’t hide the decline Charles.

  11. Voltaires Crack says:

    w-lover has a bunch of posts too. Sharmuta, right?

    Didn’t realize she was such an ignorant and strident ‘denier’.

  12. King Minos says:

    Voltaires Crack :

    w-lover has a bunch of posts too. Sharmuta, right?

    Didn’t realize she was such an ignorant and strident ‘denier’.

    she went by w-lover, dubluv and ended up as Sharmuta.

  13. garycooper says:

    Voltaires Crack :w-lover has a bunch of posts too. Sharmuta, right?
    Didn’t realize she was such an ignorant and strident ‘denier’.

    Wow! New respect for ol’ Sharmuta. She was on the Right Side of the AGW-boondoggle, once upon a time. Her love for the Fatass may have confused her temporarily, but I’d be willing to bet she’s currently scoffing off that lame-brained nonsense Chunky and Lewd-Squeeze are still clinging to, like a couple of barmy barnacles on a water-logged, deep-sixed dinghy.

  14. ChenZhen says:

    BTW- I’m not surprised that I don’t find myself in any of these threads. IIRC, In my LGF days, I stayed away from most of the engagements with this “anti-jihad” rhetoric.

    And if you guys are interested in an act of disclosure on my part, I was always confused about it, and frankly thought that it was narrow-minded at best, and dangerously counterproductive at worst.

    So, I guess I can be a snob and say that I was against CJ back when he remembers that he was wrong, and now that he thinks that he’s right.

    The commonality between the 2002-08 Johnson and the ’08+ Johnson can be summarized in a two-word phrase: arrogant asswipe.

    That’s basically what I’ve always mocked. Deservedly, IMO.

    • MrPaulRevere says:

      You’re an honest man, I respect that. Bagua welcome back, you were missed.

      • Bagua says:

        Thank you MrPaulRevere, I’ve been travelling, and also preoccupied with this and that.

        Not to mention the content has gotten so thin over yonder that there has been less to mock!

        But this fjordman dodge has dragged me back. Such hypocrisy! The DoD historians have done a bang-up job documenting this. Well done indeed.

    • beed says:

      I was down with the anti-jihad, still am, but was never on board with the “all muslims are all bad all the time and should be wiped off the face of the planet” line of thought. That would be nasty, homicidal fascism.

      But no clear-thinking and freedom-loving person thinks Sharia is a great idea or worthy of respect.

      • Bunk X says:

        The only Sharia I remember had big bazooms.

      • gizbot7 says:

        All Muslims are not bad by any stretch of the imagination. But Islam itself is stuck on channel nasty, all day, every day. Some very well intentioned people have difficulty making the distinction.

  15. Bagua says:

    Heh, Anonymous has taken over the Syrian MOD and posted a message to the Syrian people.

  16. MrPaulRevere says:

    I see Gus 802 is giving detailed lectures on economics over there. You might as well ask your plumber about quantum physics, the insights would be more profound.

  17. Banshee says:

    Charles was always an intolerant SOB. It’s just that his intolerance shifted from Muslims to Christians. The mentality is the same, he’s just got a new set of suckups (and a few malleable old ones).

    • Bagua says:

      I was struck with a similar thought reading through these preserved fjordman threads, then considering the current content.

      No middle road, just a hard right or hard left approach. Cheer-leading the current extreme, and then switching to do the same on the opposite side. Amazing, really. Absolute lack of self-restraint.

      Swearing loyalty to King Stephen, then turning coat and swearing allegiance to Empress Maud.

    • Beau Gus says:

      Except – he didn’t participate anywhere nearly as much in the old days. More threads than not had no comments from him at all.

  18. Calo says:

    Bagua :
    And there I thought I had tinnitus!

    I’m going to just smack you upside the ears for that comment Bagua.

    And, welcome back.

    • Bunk X says:

      One more crack like that and I’ll post the picture of you in your underwear on the bed with the cat.

  19. song_and_dance_man says:

    Foster’s blog transformed from sponge to diaper.

    It used to soak up stuff, but now it’s just filled with…well

    • Bunk X says:

      It used to be a pressurized cannister, available to everyone, and now it’s just a suck machine.

    • Bunk X says:

      There was a time when the internet stopped when Charles put up a new thread. Now it just laughs and scrolls away as fast as it can.

      • song_and_dance_man says:

        For us who were there the change was dramatic. Emphasis on Drama, It has already been chronicled from all corners.

        There is an old saying, and many will recognize it as I paraphrase.

        The Foster ate sour grapes and the Foster kids teeth were set on edge.

  20. song_and_dance_man says:

    Bunk X :
    A nice Irish stew is now a cold cup of chili.

    From lemonade to Kool-Aid., yep. Refreshing to bloating.

  21. swamprat says:

    He deleted every comment from SongAndDanceMan, but left Fjordmans’ comments.

    SongAndDanceMan had a religious disagreement.

    The wordy bigot only got banned.

    • Beau Gus says:

      Kinda weird, innit? Like he’d only do the total obliteration thing when the mood moved him.

  22. swamprat says:

    Good Morning S&D man!

    Didn’t mean to talk about you as if you weren’t in the room!

    • ISTE says:

      Our archives are like a Swiss cheese. As you can see there are many comments deleted.

      Most of the deleted comments were done when the poster was banned, a mass deletion of their existence because Charles threw a tantrum.

      Some posters (and I think SADM was one of them) had all their comments deleted months after they were banished.

      What Charles forgot to do in his temper tantrums as he mass deleted comments was to delete the quoted comments, it takes time and manual work but as you can see the echo, the shadow, the pure essence of those banned can still be felt and tasted as if they were still there…

      • swamprat says:

        That is very poetic!

        Funny though, for all the drama about Fjordman he puts forth now, somehow he left Fjordmans’ comments.

        What he says now does not match his deeds and actions both then and in the time between.

        If you know offhand, how many commenters got the complete comment erasure?

      • ISTE says:

        Yeah! and while I am on a creative writing roll you all may ask “How accurate is the information the Boiler Room Crew gives us if there are so many holes in the database?”

        The best way to explain this is to yet again use the Swiss cheese analogy. We freely admit our cheese has holes in it. Authentic Swiss cheese must have holes in it or you would reject it as fake. Our cheese is real, with holes.

        But for a moment forget about the cheese. We are giving our readers a complete profile, we provide statistics, graphs, screen captures and all the hidden comments we have. The parts we don’t have are a tiny percentage of the whole.

        Back to cheese. Here we are serving a bacon, Swiss, mushroom burger with fries and a large soda followed by the desert of your choice.

        In other words, we are serving an awesome meal, a complete dining experience.

        (and just because there are a few holes in the cheese on your burger does not mean the whole lunch is fake….)

      • garycooper says:

        His guitar-playing was cheesy, too. And now he’s stained orange up to his elbows, from the Cheetos.

      • Beau Gus says:

        So the overalls weren’t really orange?

      • snowcrash says:

        That burger sounds good, can I have it to go?

    • ISTE says:

      swamprat :

      If you know offhand, how many commenters got the complete comment erasure?

      I don’t, but others here may be able to answer that.

      It really is a team effort down here!

  23. garycooper says:

    The “nuke ’em all” mentality was always a bit of a laugh, reminding me of the same sentiment that used to be applied to our Cold War enemies. Yeah, right…if we kill them all, problem solved. Better get right on that.

    There are still lots of legit issues with the spread of Islam, though. I don’t have time to get into all that right now, but I think most posters here are well aware of the major bullet-points. Sodomy, stoning and ‘splodey-dopes, for example. Pedophilia, prayer-bumps and Pakistan. 😉

  24. swamprat says:

    Love your efforts. When you post the old Fjordman threads, people can judge the truth for themselves.

  25. garycooper says:

    The early bird gets the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese.

  26. rightymouse says:

    Wow! Lots of old nics there.
    Good job, ChenZ!

  27. Juan Epstein says:

    Old School.

    Sigh….

  28. Beau Gus says:

    I wounder how well this would go over these days (I hope worpdress doesn’t mangle it):

    307 Sharmuta Sun, Jul 30, 2006 11:15:46am replyquote

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    ……………/…./
    …………../…./
    ……../´¯/’..’/´¯& macr;`·¸
    …../’/../…./……./¨¯ ;
    …(‘(…………. ¯~/’..’)
    ….…………….’? 0;../
    …..”……………_.&m iddot;´
    …….…………..(
    ……..…………..

  29. Mandingo Warrior says:

    After mulling these threads, I think that it’s important to point out that CJ is probably the most implicated in the whole Norway thing. He was really the hub for the whole movement that inspired AB, and his site could not have been missed.

    I think he believes because he admonished those sites at one point, he’s absolved from guilt, but there’s no denying the connection and the fact that LGF was a very powerful blog at the time AB was formulating his viewpoints.

    It’s really baffling because CJ could have said so many things to distance himself in appropriate ways, but hiding and deleting information is really underhanded.

    • Beau Gus says:

      This whole episode demonstrates the law of holes dramatically. Instead of digging, shutupping would have been a much smarter thing to do.

  30. jd says:

    Interesting to see all the old familiar nics.